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Four Linux Vendors Agree On An LSB Implemenation

An anonymous reader submits a link to this story at Linuxlookup.com which says that "Connectiva, Mandrakesoft, Progeny and Turbolinux today announce the creation of a common implementation of the LSB 2.0 which will serve as the base for future products. The project, called 'Linux Core Consortium' (LCC), is backed by Linux supporters such as Computer Associates, HP, Novell, Red Hat, Sun, OSDL, and the Free Standards Group."

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  1. Re:LSB? by calibanDNS · · Score: 4, Informative

    LSB is the Linux Standard Base.

  2. More information about the LCC... by joestar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is available in the PR and in the FAQ.

    It's interesting to notice the differences with UnitedLinux. LCC is not to push one Linux Standard, but to push the Linux standard (LSB).

  3. What LSB is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    What is the LSB Project?

    The goal of the LSB is to develop and promote a set of binary standards that will increase compatibility among Linux systems (and other similar systems), and enable software applications to run on any conforming system. In addition, the LSB will help coordinate efforts to recruit software vendors to port and write products for such systems.

    What Does LSB Stand For?

    The acronym LSB stands for Linux Standard Base. A key goal that led to the formation of the LSB project was to try to prevent the divergence of Linux-based systems, thus a name indicating base functionality for Linux. Note that the project prefers the use of the acronym LSB over the spelled-out Linux Standard Base to reduce the misconception that this is a Linux-only standard (see next question).

    source: LSB faq

    Was that difficult? No.

  4. Re:The Reference Unix by Coryoth · · Score: 4, Informative

    Think about the things that are broken in the default solaris install:

    sed, awk, tar


    Depending on what you're looking for you (ie. if you like a lot of the GNU convenience features) can include

    ls (no, really, no colors, and lacking all manner of other sugary features)
    grep (the raw Solaris grep is surprisngly slow compared to GNU grep, not to mentiona lack of options)
    diff (go on, try diff --help, again, all the nice options are missing)

    and as you say, many many more. That's some pretty basic stuff that, while not "broken", feels broken when you're used to the GNU versions.

    Oh, and killall. killall is always fun on Solaris...

    Jedidiah.

  5. Re:LSB? by JustKidding · · Score: 3, Informative
    You jest, but there are architectures that have their bits numbered the *other* way around (where bit 0 is the most significant bit, while bit n (n=15, 31, etc) is the least significant bit).
    (If you really must know, it appears PowerPC is numbered this way).

    That's simply not true. What you are referring to is called "endianess", which is the way the bytes are arranged in 16 or more bit words. There are two possible ways to store the bytes of a 16 bit word: least significant byte first (called little endian), and most significant byte first (called big endian).
    The bits in a byte are always numbered from 0 to 7, with 0 being the least significant and 7 being the most significant bit.
    Also, bits on physical lines (like address or data busses) are always numbered sequentially, and it therefore impossible to wire things up backwards because of endianness (it is, however, still possible with pure stupidity).

    Endianness can be a problem, however, in computer networks; for example when transmitting a 32 bit word from an Intel machine to a PowerPC. The two machines differ in endianess (the Intel being little endian and the PowerPC being big endian), which means the byteorder is different, which can lead to incorrect values for the word after transmission, if the programmers don't take care to convert every word to network endianess before transmitting and from network to machine endianess after receiving.

    For more information: http://www.cs.umass.edu/~verts/cs32/endian.html

  6. Try again, thanks for playing by JSBiff · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are you smoking crack? Deb won't support LSB? They ALREADY DO. In the 'stable' distro they support LSB 1.1, and 'testing' has LSB 2.0 support, as demonstrated by the link above. Do a little research before you post.

    In fact, the Debian developers track the standards almost religiously, and have for a long time. Filesystem Hierarchy Standard and LSB support have been part of Debian for a long time now. That's why I personally use Debian. It is a completely free, relatively easy to use and administer (once you are past the initial learning curve), standards compliant distro with almost every open-source/free package out there already packaged for installation from the Debian distro mirrors.