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California Considers Tracking Your Car

dan_sdot writes "California's budget problem has led the state to consider desperate measures: taxing you based on how much you drive. The only problem is the way they propose to do it. California is now proposing to put GPS devices on all new cars to track how far people drive and tax them accordingly."

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  1. Yeah, I already got the letter about this one... by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Funny
    Yeah, I got a letter about this one a few days ago:

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    State of California
    1 Aahnold St.
    Sacramento, CA

    Dear Skyshadow,

    While we in the state of California appreciate your interest in our state and the contributions you've made while living here the last fours years, it has become increasingly apparent that you're not getting the message. So, let us be direct:

    Get the hell out.

    Frankly, all of you refugees from Jesusland are seriously overpopulating our state, and we can't afford it anymore. We figured you might have gotten the hint after we destroyed our public school system with Prop 13. We thought you would have put it together when we started referring to pet owners as "guardians" like they were our fucking kids or something. And, really, we're stunned that electing the guy from "Commando" as our governor didn't make you reassess living here.

    C'mon, how much is nice weather, a neat bridge and decent wine really worth? A crappy 900 sq. ft. house in Walnut Creek with a postage-stamp sized yard is a steal at $400k because of all you idiots flooding in! Go home!

    Anyhow, by now we're sure you've read about our plan to implant a GPS tracker on your car and tax you for every mile you drive. We're proud of that one -- we know you're driving an hour each way to and from work because of the sky-high housing prices around the Bay Area (again: your fault), and we figure that nicely conveys our point. And frankly, if this doesn't get our message across, we're going to have to resort to simply grabbing you out of your bed in the middle of the night and feeding your to that Great White we have on display down in Monterey. Don't think we won't. Hell, we'll feed her your goddamn cheesehead cats, too. Try us.

    Move back to Wisconsin. We're not kidding.

    Love, California

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  2. New Revenue Source ... For Me by Mad+Martigan · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, does that mean that if I run my car in reverse, the state will start sending me checks? Hmm, no ... that doesn't sound right ...

  3. Odometer by Rufus88 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why not just report your odometer reading each year? It could even by done by the service station that performs your annual inspection.

  4. Another tax on the working class by wembley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who has to drive the furthest? People who can't afford to live in the houses they clean. People who run small businesses and have to deliver product themselves. People who deliver pizzas.

    This really won't bother your Hummer drivers. They are already getting hit with gas-guzzler taxes.

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  5. Re:Dont they already do this? by cephyn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did you read the article? oh wait, I'm not new here, so no, you didn't.

    Since a prius will drive much further on a tank than a person in an H2, if both individuals drive 100 miles, the person in the H2 pays significantly more in taxes. They're proposing to change the system so that its based on how far you drive, not how much gas you use.

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  6. Wow... by JoeLinux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can they figure out any OTHER way to try to drive out business out of this state?

    We have some of the highest sales tax, the highest standards of living, permits are required to do anything short of wiping my ass and whacking off.

    I propose a tax on ravers. We have enough of them. San Francisco could wipe out our debt in and of itself. It's simple to do it too: if the number of dead glowsticks in your apartment/mom's basement weigh more than your furniture, you get taxed. They certainly have the money for it. If they can afford those E hits....

    Just a thought,

    Joe

  7. Re:Dont they already do this? by dbond · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Talk about overengineering! If gas/petrol was taxed higher, they could avoid this completely. I suspect what they really want to know is who's where when and how fast they are going. So the can fine you. 'Cos you speed. Just like everyone else. David

  8. Tax by CAR WEIGHT, dumbasses!!! by wernst · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm sure readers outside California know this, but in case you didn't know...

    Some other states apply their car tax by the vehicle's weight, due to the very sensible reason that a heaver car wears down the roads more than a lighter car, and therefore more repairs (and hence, more cost) are required with heavy cars.

    Obviously, SUVs and luxury cars pay more, while lighter and frugal cars pay less, PLUS it just makes sense: if you chew up the pavement and make more potholes because of your heavier car, then you SHOULD pay more.

    Of course, this makes too much sense for my state's DMV to figure out...

  9. Re:Not really by nmx · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's be honest here, Not everyone can drive a primus around.

    In fact, no one can, because it doesn't exist. Maybe you were thinking of the Prius?

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  10. Re:Not really by RandomCoil · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Will a primus will do less damage to the road than a light truck or a small car? The answer is: it depends on the vehicle we're comparing it to. Those batteries are heavy. :D
    Surely you saw this coming. A Prius weighs 2890lb, a Civic EX (AT) weighs 2668lb. Pretty negligible.
    Let's be honest here, Not everyone can drive a primus around. Trucks and other gas powered will always be needed, expecially for rural and long distance driving.
    A Prius with a low-ball mpg rating of 44 (a real-world number I've heard) and its 11.9 gallon tank can go over 500 miles. How far apart are gas stations where you're talking about? I think the basic problem here is you're assuming the Prius is electric. It's not; it's a hybrid. So why can't the truck be a hybrid?
    If we continue down taxing gas usage only, we'll get to a point where rural areas are paying a significant part of the taxes for upkeep of the road, while the city population, which would be near 100% electric in 10 ~ 30 years, gets off tax free.
    No, people in rural areas will use more efficient vehicles. Last I checked, electric power also made it out there -- why do you think an all-electric vehicle wouldn't be practical in 10-30 years?
    Taxing gas is the incorrect tool for the job.
    No, it's the perfect tool. It pays for the impact of vehicles in the same way as gambling, smoking, and alcohol pay for their impact: through a sin tax. A gas tax encourages more efficient vehicles, shorter commutes, and public transportation. Taxing mileage only encourages the latter two.
  11. Gas taxes?? (Re:Odometer) by Agent+Green · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't this the kind of stuff that gasoline taxes are supposed to take care of?? Since most of populous CA is nowhere near a state border, just raise that. The best part of this, is that if you don't drive, you don't get taxed directly. Who needs more technology for this?

    And this will sorely punish the SUV owners that the tree huggers keep bitching about simply by virtue of fuel usage. So, in a way, you are getting taxed by the mile and for having an eco-unfriendly car.

    Granted, the whole idea is utter bullshit to begin with...

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  12. Re:Not really by rileysowner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So I take it you don't eat!? Don't forget that every piece of food you eat starts with some farmer in the boondocks, and for them to produce that food they need affordable fuel.

  13. Re:Cue GPS hackers... by MemoryAid · · Score: 5, Funny
    For once, a tinfoil hat will actually come in handy...for the GPS antenna. Just cover the latter with the former to block the signal, and it won't be able to receive the satellites. That should probably just be done for the long trips, leaving it uncovered for believable mileages near where the man thinks you live.

    Disclaimer: I may or may not live in California.

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