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Build Your Own Cyclotron

mindpixel writes "Physics Today is running a story about Tim Koeth's 12 inch cyclotron. Here's a quote that says it all: 'I was sitting in Tom Devlin's modern physics lecture. He described the principle of the cyclotron. He said it required a lot of RF power. I was--and am--a ham radio operator, so RF was no problem. It needed a big magnet; I knew I could find one of those. How tough could a vacuum system and chamber be?'"

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  1. Sounds dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've seen Battlestar Galactica. First you build one, then it tries to kill you!

    1. Re:Sounds dangerous by Aardpig · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd be hammering away every waking moment in my metal shop!

      You missed the 'n' before the 'k'.

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    2. Re:Sounds dangerous by Grey+Tomorrow · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sorry, the thread talking about the dangerous addictive nature of porn is one article over.

    3. Re:Sounds dangerous by uberdave · · Score: 3, Informative

      In the books "The Cylon Death Machine" and "Battlestar Galactica", Cylons are a reptilian race and they wear body armour. As they progress through the ranks, some of them would be augmented with second brains. If they had the right body type, they would be awarded a third brain, and rise to the rank of Imperious Leader.

  2. Interesting.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I see "12 inch" and "vacuum" in the same story.

    Is /. posting spam now?

  3. "The magnet came to us ugly," by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    I fucking hate ugly magnets because I still find them almost as attractive as the cute ones.

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  4. Be careful with those Gamma Rays by Hulkster · · Score: 3, Funny

    I too was a mild-mannered scientist, until I was hit with an accidental dose of Gamma Rays and turned in The Incredible Hulk ... so Tim should be careful.

  5. cyclotron by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 5, Informative

    n. A circular particle accelerator in which charged subatomic particles generated at a central source are accelerated spirally outward in a plane perpendicular to a fixed magnetic field by an alternating electric field. A cyclotron is capable of generating particle energies between a few million and several tens of millions of electron volts.

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  6. Re:Next can some enterprising physics student do.. by Hentai · · Score: 3, Informative
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  7. I made a cloud chamber once... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I made a cloud chamber in junior high (and I graduated from high school in 1972, so do the math.)

    A little dry ice, some alcohol, black paper, a strong light, a petri dish (I think it was), and a bit of the stuff from the hand of a watch.

    It actually worked; I could see an occasional trail of condensation, but the thrill was not that it worked but that I built it. I would not have been thrilled one bit less if it hadn't of worked at all.

    1. Re:I made a cloud chamber once... by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I used to have a copy of a book of Scientific American's Amateur Scientist columns that was published some time in the 50s -- back when they would not only give you instructions for making a cloud chamber, but offer a radioactive speck (!) for the price of a SASE (!!).

      They also had instructions there on building linear accelerators based on Van der Graaf generators. That wasn't good enough for me, though -- I wanted a circular accelerator, like they had at CERN. (Somewhere, between old report cards and essays on democracy, is a reply from Carlo Rubbia, head of CERN at the time, to a fan letter I wrote him.)

      I got as far as convincing the local welder that he should join some copper pipe in a circle for me for free. I'm great on ideas, but follow-through...Kudos to these guys for doing it. That's just cool beyond belief.

    2. Re:I made a cloud chamber once... by deglr6328 · · Score: 4, Informative

      pfft, this guy built a cyclotron IN HIGH SCHOOL by himself and used it to demonstrate "particle mass resonace" he won the ISEF (used to be westinghouse) with it. Oh and he also was a consultant on accelerator technology for the show "stephen hawkings universe" shown on bbc and pbs. Not cool enough for you. Well he also built a breeder reactor to win a scavenger hunt.

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  8. reminds me of all the old SA Amateur Scientist by Anonymous+Chemist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Scientific American used to run article on how to build things for physics. Seems like prior to persuing chemistry and electrical engineering my brothers and I built Van Der Graff generators, cloud chambers, and lots more from those pages. They had an old design for a particle accelerator as well. It was NOWHERE near this.

    Fascibnating to read an article like this

  9. Cyclotron chess set by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm going to make the king out of a linear accelerator. For the pawns I'll use my run-of-the-mill 5 keV cyclotrons.

    A friend of mine in the physics program at Rutgers built the can crusher demo they have. It discharges a huge HV paper-oil capacitor through a coil of copper tubing about six or seven turns long, wrapped around a plexiglass tube. You put the can in the tube, close the switch, and POW the can is instantly crushed into a hot crumpled aluminum stick the width of your thumb because the field sets up a countercurrent in the can which repels the main coils. Even my girlfriend was impressed. We used to discharge the capacitor bank across thin wire-wrap wire, which vaporizes pretty well. He's working at some military contractor nowadays, working on ultrapowerful lasers. Which probably suits him better than the fiber optic sissy lasers he was working on before the telecom crash.

    Another thing you should know if you take physics at Rutgers is that the physics auditorium is probably exposing you to mercury vapor. Legend has it that they did a "mercury hammer" demo one time with liquid nitrogen, where you pour the mercury in and freeze it, then pull it out and pound nails with it. Someone got the bright idea of passing the hammer around the room, and during its trip through the audience it started to drip. Only some of it made it back to the front of the room.

  10. Venkman... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 4, Funny


    Why worry? Each one of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.
    </Venkman>

    Just seemed appropriate...

  11. Excellent story! by farrellj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This goes to show you that you don't need megabucks to do good science! To many, half of science is the challenge, not the successes, but they are nice, of course [grin].

    I don't see why this mind-set couldn't be used for teaching science and computers on the high school level....Find a company that is getting rid of their dozens of old Pentium II system, get them to donate them to the highschool, and build a Beowulf or OpenMosix cluster to allow HS students to learn the fundamentals of supercomputing environments. Get a local university to help teach them...and you now have a chance of producing better educated computer geeks...and the physics & chemistry geeks and run small simulations as well.

    Just an idea...

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  12. Re:Next can some enterprising physics student do.. by Alien+Being · · Score: 3, Funny

    Miles Monroe: Perform sex? Uh, uh, I don't think I'm up to a performance, but I'll rehearse with you, if you like.

    Luna Schlosser: Okay. I just thought you might want to; they have a machine here.

    Miles Monroe: Machine? I'm not getting into that thing. I, I'm strictly a hand operator; you know, I, I... I don't like anything with moving parts that are not my own.

  13. No big deal..... by CharlieG · · Score: 5, Informative

    Folks,
    Go out and get yourself a copy of "The Amateur Scientist" collection on CD.

    For those of you who are too young to remember the column, or before it was dumbed down, Scientific American had a column called "The Amateur Scientist" - they had plans for a cyclotron, a SERIOUSLY high power CO2 laser and LOTS of other things that could get you hurt in a real hurry. And they showed REAL experiments, and REAL science in that column.

    Of course, that was before SciAmerican got dumbed down, became half ads, and became PC - you could actually find desenting views in REAL papers

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  14. This reminds me of another student story by thomas536 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Fun with fusion: Freshman's nuclear fusion reactor has USU physics faculty in awe

    http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,510054502,00 .html

    It never seemed to me like it was actually fusion, but hey, whatever...

  15. Re:12" magnet weighing 2.5 ton? by MmmDee · · Score: 5, Informative
    Look for magnet details here.
    Height: 36 inches (91cm)

    Width:42 inches (106.5cm)

    Depth:12 inchs (30cm)

    Pole Diameter:12 inches (30cm)

    Yoke Cross Section:72sq.inches (450sq.cm.) per yoke (double that for total circuit area)

    Total Weight: 4,600 pounds

    -each coil:800 pounds

    -Iron:3,000 pounds

    Power Consumption (max. operating conditions): 4kW (80 V @ 50 A)

    Cooling Requirements: Water flow approx 2 GPM
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  16. Most everyone claims to have a 12" cyclotron... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...when most cyclotrons are only around 5.5 inches.

  17. Vacuum chambers will be the death of me. by DiracFeynman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a grad student in physics i've aided my professor in the construction of a VSM (vibrating sample magnetometer, 5T sweep field) and a low-temperature MOKE (magneto-optical Kerr effect) system which is housed in a vacuum chamber. I've had absolutely no fun dealing with hivac systems. So many parameters; such as the oil on your body, hair, microscopic defects in gaskets, and miniscule amounts of dust can really play a role on the vacuum that can be achieved. Then comes the fun of finding the leaks...ahhh! All in all, it was a good experience, though. So go build something. Take it easy.

  18. Re:Yeah right by isaac · · Score: 3, Informative
    yeah, i'm curious too. If it's 12in diameter and say 2 feet tall from that picture (if it's taking all the vertical space in the frame). Then I come up with it weighing ~800 lbs if made of iron. I would guess it's made of some crazy ceramic type matarial, still don't see it making 1.5 ton, would have to have a density of ~1.0 lb/in^3

    The pole diameter is only 12 inches but the yoke and coils are included in that figure. Total weight is 4600 lbs for the magnet assembly - each coil is 800 lbs and the iron yoke and pole assembly is 3000 lbs.

    http://www.physics.rutgers.edu/cyclotron/12inchmag .shtml

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