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Peer Impact Signs 3 Major Record Labels

An anonymous reader submits "Three of the Big Four music labels have reached licensing agreements to provide their music to the soon-to-launch Peer Impact network, a peer-to-peer service that enables legal music file-sharing."

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  1. DRM? by grub · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Are the files distributed on that network DRM'd somehow? If so that will doom it and give the RIAA more ammo for the "illegal P2P is killing us!" rant.

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    1. Re:DRM? by psyco484 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I doubt the majority of this software's intended userbase have the capacity to even do that. Sure some people will be able to but not enough to cause a serious problem.

      While it's good to use caution when dealing with DRM (it is a foot-in-the-door technology), if there aren't massively available legal methods for p2p filesharing, then the industry is just going to tighten the vice on current p2p even more than they are already. The problem that might arise from this is not that more sources of 'illegal' mp3s will surface, it's that this is being described as p2p, not a digital music store like iTunes/Napster/etc. If they're going to be charging people to be a part of this service, I'm curious why someone would be willing to use their upload bandwidth on it, and likewise, why someone would want to download something at 20k/s that they could get from a professional service faster. Clearly there are ways to get around this, making it function like bittorrent for example, but someone with a large library might be continually uploading, while paying to do so. The news.com.com.com.com article mentions they're playing off the community aspect some p2p networks have, claiming this will make users have a stake in the network's success. I think they may be missing that the majority of the "community" surrounding p2p networks are those involved most heavily in the distribution of pirated content. These are the same people that'll be put off by DRM, put off by paying a service fee to share, and put off by paying the industry that is suing them.

      Maybe when more details come out it'll be more clear as to what this service actually does, and maybe some people in these p2p communities will like a legal alternative. I hope, for the sake of continued p2p existence, that this company does well and, for the sake of consumer rights, the DRM isn't horribly restricted.

  2. "sharing" by doowy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    this isn't really 'sharing' as their press releases would have you believe.

    It is 'sharing' as in sharing your bandwidth. You still pay for the download. Wurld Media gets a cut and so do the labels (and presumaby the artists).

    The difference between something like this and iTunes is that they are going to try to sell it with the "p2p" sex-appeal to lure people in.

    Since it is p2p, it will cut down on their bandwidth costs in a big way.

    If the P2P protocol and/or client isn't superior to whats available (for 'free') to people, it won't fly.

    If it IS superior, how long until we see a 'lite' version of their client that authenticates with an alternative server (or none at all) that gets widely distributed and used as a seperate and 'free' p2p network?

    This one might be interesting.

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    1. Re:"sharing" by Ignignot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why would someone pay $3.50 for a coffee at Starbucks? Because of the experience.

      And here I was thinking that people do it because they have shit for brains and wouldn't know good coffee if it burned their woo-hoo's off!

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    2. Re:"sharing" by Penguinshit · · Score: 2, Insightful


      I think that sounds exactly like the "for-fee" version of Napster we all hoped that the RIAA would support many years ago.

      Sadly, the RIAA missed the boat on that one and in the process created a much larger, harder-core, set of people intent on acquiring free (as in gratis) music.

  3. Paying to Share by 93,000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you're paying money to 'share', aren't you really buying rather than sharing?

    It seems like they're bastardising the concept of sharing to exploit the term's popularity.

    1. Re:Paying to Share by PhilHibbs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the term "share" was already bastardised by those that like to justify copyright violaton in the name of "sharing".

  4. Worst Information possible?? by jmcmunn · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Can anyone provide a link that actually has some useful info on this subject? The three links in the post essentially tell me nothing about the new service. How much will it cost? How does it work? Can we get some useful info other than "new mystery service coming soon!!" Slashdot must be partnered with them somehow...giving them free advertising.

  5. super sexy good by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is this news? It's just another commercial delivery system. Does using P2P somehow make it super sexy good? Thanks Tim. Not.

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    1. Re:super sexy good by rpdillon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think it's news because it's the music industry's first foray into commercialized p2p music distribution, and apparently they've managed to convince some large companies that it's a worthwhile endevour. News to me.

  6. So, who's gonna be the first.... by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...to allow a piece of software created by 3 of the "big 4" to run on their system?

    You don't even need to be a tinfoil hat type to see that this is an extremely bad idea. I have no wish to be Pwn3d by the RIAA.

    Can't wait to see what kinda packets people find this thing sending back to its masters.

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    1. Re:So, who's gonna be the first.... by TheLoneCabbage · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well it's all quite convienent you see. In addition to gettin the lattest music through a proprietary p2p sharing network (is that an oxymoron?), and helping the major record lables save on bandwidth; They will even scan your hard drive and remove the illegal mp3's that you accidentaly put on your system. Isn't that nice?

      BTW: I wonder if you can actually engage in sharing of files, ie: This song rocks, here check it out before you buy it. Or you just lend your DSL to MGM.

      Here's a novel concept: Maybe sharing is about amongst equals, not helping to lower the costs of multi-billion dollar industries who will otherwise sue you.

      Maybe... it's just an idea.

  7. Won't Work by maskedbishounen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I'm reading this correctly, this is a server-side addition that more or less bills you for downloading music through "normal" P2P networks -- normal as in ones with their software running.

    And this is supposed to work, uhh, how, exactly?

    Oh, and let me guess. You downloaded a bad rip and want a better one? Better pay up. Again.

    In short: Nothing to see here. Move along....

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  8. If you can't beat it, join it and ruin it by jnull · · Score: 2, Insightful

    --c'est tu--

  9. My first impression: by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a service, that in almost everyway, is simply another pay-for-download music model.

    You login, you license a song, you download it (with DRM).

    Here's the difference, I'm guessing:

    It's P2P. You download it from someone else on the network. That person gets some sort of recompensation based upon outgoing bandwidth used for legally purchased downloads.

    Thus, if you have 100s of gigs online (legally purchased), and you serve it out on a fat pipe, and its stuff thats indemand, you may find a portion of your 'costs' paid for by the service.

    Might work. Depend on whether or not the bandwidth savings for Wurld Media result in cheaper prices per song.

    I doubt it, personal. Don't think they'll go under iTunes, and it'll still be difficult to compete with free.

    It's a neat idea, but its just TOO late. You have mature free filesharing networks, and it just isn't going to work to introduce not-free (as in beer) networks.

    It's telling consumers: Here, I have a product, its just like the one you already have, but you have to pay for mine.

    Right.

    At least with iTunes&look-a-likes, you get instant access to the music you want. Pay-for-P2P is slow, requires searching for music you may want, and requires money? Worst of all worlds.

    I guess it is legal, and for the small portion of the public of which the legality of music sharing is a big deal, this may matter. But that demographic is a small part of slashdot, and I'm betting that its an even smaller part of the world at large.

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  10. Why peer-to-peer if we have to pay? by jb_nizet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously, if all the "shared" files aren't free, why should I help them by offering my bandwidth to their other customers?
    It's a bit like if I went to a shop, bought a disc, and the shop gave me 100 other copies to distribute by myself to other customers.

  11. Incredible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now I can pay money to receive music at a quality that's inferior to CD at a store that has a selection inferior to any city's music store *AND* as an added bonus incur bandwidth sharing costs as well as opening my computer up to exploitation with yet another app with sockets a-listening.

    Where do I sign up???

  12. Re:Indi artists? by jfengel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The indie labels are exactly where they always were: indepdendent. They've had the right for years to make their music available in any form they want. Put it on the existing P2P networks, make it available to download through iTMS or another service, put it on their web site.

    The big record labels have always had the marketing advantage. That's what makes them the big record labels. The indies' upside is that they can make any sort of music they want; the downside is that because they're not aggressively targeting the mainstream, nobody's ever heard of them.

    I don't think this changes anything. If the indies want to be noticed they need to develop their own ways. They should be more flexible than the Big Four, not just piggyback on their successes.