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1994 BSD/Unix Settlement Released On Groklaw
davidwr writes "Groklaw has the newly-released-previously-secret 1994 Berkeley/UNIX Systems Laboratories settlement which gave rise to BSD4.4(Lite) (as pdf and text with commentary). This may have an impact on the SCO vs. Linux war."
first post :-)
1994 = 2 * 997
Parent is goatse troll, don't click it.
actually the war on terror isn't a loosing battle. There won't always be terror at least on the scale it is today.
The object of the war on terror isn't to make everyone agree and get along. It is to force the terrorist to make changes by piecful means. A group of people that don't reflect the population killing civilians is not a noble thing to do no matter how you try to justify it. There are alway other options like full blown war were you go after troops and military instead of average joe trying to make a living. Once an organization creates a situation were the entire country is willing to goto war, it is likley that thier grevences would have already been addresses because of the public setiment behind it.
Even today, we see terrorism in areas by those claiming to represent more people than they doo. You have muslim extreamist that turned to terrorism claiming to represent a good portion of muslims wich is false. you have palistinians with thier suicide bombing claiming to represent more people then they do. You even have countries like spain that cave in and give terrorist legitamicy. Even now there is a push to clean up the U.N. because of it's support for different terrorist or the countries that support it.
Speaking of terror and terrorist. Knobody is saying they cannot have a differing opinion then others. No one is remotley saying they cannot try to act on that opinion. What is being said is that they cannot use terror as a weapon to express those differences or try to force policy changes.
Because it is happening doesn't mean it is loosing. What it means is that those willing to fight it will put it in a place were civilians aren't going to get hit with it. You may say what about iraq. well eventually thier government will make it the same way as elswere. This war on terror isn';t and never will be a snap your fingers and it is done situation. It is a constantly ongoing situation were the goal is to either halt terrorist activity or take the terrorist actions to a place were less inocent civilians are likley to get hurt.
The war on terror also is fought several different ways. Some ways might include military action while others might make sure those disgressed have a voice in the politics surounding the issue. One thing is certain, once they decide to use terror as a bargaining chip, they won't get the second treatment.
What is being said is that they cannot use terror as a weapon to express those differences or try to force policy changes.
You fucking rube. The US sponsors terrorism worldwide in places like Israel, Turkey, Colombia, etc. for its own purposes. The war on terror is a convienent tool to manipulate the public to bend to the will of the leaders, e.g., the war in Iraq, USA PATRIOT Act, just like the war on drugs, the Cold War, and most if not all of the real wars in American history have been.
How many terrorist incidents have there been in the US since 9/11? The Macy's Parade looked pretty calm to me.
eh? Acts of terrorism are stable if not on the rise. So, we haven't been bombed on American soil in 4 years? That's not something to brag about.
Story 1 -- global terrorism rose in 2002
Story 2 -- global terrorism sucks. US may be as safe as we were since 9/11 but reelection may prompt new acts
Story 3 -- Rise in terrorism in 2003 over 2002. (Note in the first article 2002's numbers were understated though.
Story 4 -- Lebanese, people who actually know something about terrorim, see 100% rise due to foreign policy.
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It's all google-able. And if we count those 'insurgents' as terrorist, which we're fond of doing when it serves our purposes, terrorism is astronomical.
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Politics is much more complex than a sound bite can convey, this may be news to you-at least it seems as if it would by the manner in which you have commented. Both ideology and manipulation of information to support that ideology or oppose opponent ideologies are central to all political parties and individuals.
(Score: 5, Anti-conservative)
So much for objectivity.
-- If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? - Uli's moose
Including or excluding what? I made no stance at all, only pointing out the hollowness and FUD of the post above me.
My statement about rube saying cocksuckers was diliberatly unfouded and meaningless, i.e. the same kind of dribble as the original post. It's alot easier to make a broad claim than it is to back it up. There is also a huge gap between opinion and fact. The original post commited both faux pauxs.
Acts of war, or acts designed to threaten war against another country or thier armies isn't terrorism rather an act of war. Some people would question itis morality in itself but it is definatly on a different level then terrorism reguardless or being right or wrong.
Yes, killing terrorist or other wise bringing them to justice is an acceptable means. OH you might be one of the few left that think all the foreign fighters in fallujah are rebels that don't know thier country was defeated. Well then this still constitutes acts of war. Here is a news flash, most of the remaining insurgents are not iraqi freedom fighters. they are foreign terrorist that went to iraq with the intentions of killing iraqis in order to make the united states look like it is failing.
yes i am talking about this. Pulling troops from iraq right after a terrorist attack were they were claiming that no more attack would happen if they did pull out onlyn lends creditability to the terrorists. This is independent of spains intentions to pull the troops anyways. It isn't likley any terrorist will say "well spain was going to elect a different government and then pull the troops out anyways" when the terrorist say "look what we did our efforts make a difference" when recruiting the next suicide bomber. You and i know the difference because we have the an IQ large enough not to blow ourselves up while trying to kill inocent civilians. The people they are recruting don't.
Yes and with the war on terror, it will be known that if they think this terrorism is a legitamate tactic they will never be negociated with again. Thier voice has just become completly null in the scheeme of things. The only thign left for them is death. The idea of terrorism being a legitamate tool so that a minority of people can get thier way is kind of liek the playground bully punching every that wants to play in the nose to get at those that do not want to play his game. It is wrong then and it is wrong now.
You mentioned that the U.S. is a minority in the world when
I remeber that being more like 15% to 25% were foreign fighters and they were the ones commanding the iraqi's that stayed and fought.
Anyways, they said that the majority of insurgents fleed fallujah before the action took place. How many of them were foreign?
Ah, there's your problem: Your memory is faulty. No wonder you think the war on terror is going well if you have erroneous thoughts in your head.
The Napoleon campaign in Russia. Although is not completely clear who won on Borodino, the final battle before Napoleon conquered Moscow. Since the Russian left the battlefield, they could be considered losers, but the French substained big loses, almost a pyrric victory.
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Shut up Canook.
You mark *my* post as flamebait, but not the jackass with the FUD wagon "flamebait" above it? What a bunch of ragging cunts you are. You can blow that out your ass as well. How is my finger pointing and name calling any differnt from the post above it?
Wait, I know. I went against the grain and said something to someone spewing anti-American FUD on a website fond of coddling anti-American asswipes.
The US may be a bunch of manipulative assholes, but you and your contries are no different. How many Crusades did the Europeans launch against the Muslims? How long did England oppress the Scots? Your contries move on the same principals, as if straight from the pen of Machiavelli. So point that fucking finger up your ass.
god DAMN do you mother fucking fail it.
"The war on terror is a war on terrorism were a group of people attack another group of people that aren't directly related to a third group of people in attemp to gain political influence to the third group of people. The middle group is in no way militarily conected to the third group except maybe being citizens of the same country or having some other circumstance generaly out of thier control.(kind of like racism)"
Let's see here. My government (USA) bombs civilians, and holds people without the due process that we are supposed to believe is a right, even if those people just happen to live near terrorists. Hmmm, my country, or at least my country's army, is starting to sound an awful lot like a terrorist.
Wow, this is really off topic...
"Lets face it, from an american standpoint, spain has little to offer most western countries outside a place to vacation and a couple of pretty women."
And this is why Americans backpacking throughout Europe need to claim that they are Canadain.
Honestly, What does the USA offer to the rest of the world? We import more then we export, so from what I can tell we're leeches on the world.
It's a big difference between what you're doing, and other things being done in the name of the "war on drugs", like what the US is doing in South America.