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SCO Sells First Linux Licenses in UK

Christopher writes "SCO has actually sold its first Linux licenses in the UK. These licenses permit the use of SCO's intellectual property that is apparently present in Linux distributions, and in binary form only. To my understanding SCO hasn't won yet and these licenses don't grant you any freedoms you didn't already have, but SCO's vice president Chris Sontag says that 20 to 30 organisations worldwide have purchased these licenses."

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  1. Nothing new by Underholdning · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are also people who sell land on the moon. It's wortless, and people pitty the ones who buy it.

    1. Re:Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey look at least there's some basis for selling land on the moon.

      There's actually land on the moon isn't there?

    2. Re:Nothing new by MoonFog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Purchasing a spot on the moon is a scam. It cannot be purchased because nobody has the right to sell it because nobody owns it. IIRC, this has been agreed upon by all countries in the UN (feel free to correct me on this).

      As for SCO, they still claim that they own the rights to the code and that it shouldn't be open source, it was "stolen". That's why they claim license money and unfortunately some companies buy into it.

    3. Re:Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My thoughts exactly. On top of that, since it is in binary only, and they will not identify the code they claim, you can now no longer use any source code in your kernel for fear of violating the license you just purchased. You certainly cannot compile a kernel with confidence. No gentoo for you there boys.

      When will they ever learn? When will they learn?

      A Nony Mouse

    4. Re:Nothing new by k98sven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now, they can only sue licensees hence the legal action against IBM, Autozone and DaimlerChrysler, all of whom are licensees of UNIX.

      Yes, but being an SCO Linux licensee doesn't necessarily make you a licensee of UNIX.

      From what I understand, the SCO Linux licenses are as vague in describing what exactly you are supposedly licensing as SCO is in describing what part of Linux is supposedly infringing.

    5. Re:Nothing new by some_random_idiot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > That's because we've actually freaken BEEN THERE.

      And the South Pole belongs to Norway? I know it's not a perfect analogy, but hell, they were there first albeit not the last, and the US isn't going to be the last nation to send men to the Moon.

  2. Spam tactics by beders · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ask enough people for money for majic beans and eventually someone will bite.

    Just some corporate arse covering

  3. *who* is important by Alain+Williams · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I should imagine that it would not be too difficult to pursuade a couple of one man bands to buy SCO licences - especially if, quite coincidentally, SCO happened to buy some consultancy ...

    A 500 seat/licence company would be quite different.

  4. Woo by ggeezz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You must be in bad shape if selling your first license in a country garners a headline. And 20 to 30 organisations worldwide? Is that supposed to lend merit to SCO's case. This just shows that there are still idiots out there, even at the corporate level.

  5. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Why did this get modded down? Parent has a valid point.

  6. What are these people's recourse? by zakkie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just wondering what options these organisations will have once SCO's case is dismissed? At what point is public deception so severe that criminal cases can be opened against executives who knowingly lie to the public?

  7. Not another one! by northcat · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Please don't start another slashdot cliche joke(I dont't know the exact term). I am already sick of "will it run on linux" and "netcraft confirms it".

  8. Who are they? by tclark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It would be interesting to know who these org are organizations because:

    1. We might want to avoid them like the plague;
    2. We might want to help the poor bastards out - they clearly need help;
    3. We might all want to hit them up to buy our own "IP licenses". If they will buy this crap from SCO, they will buy it from anybody.

  9. Not so stellar with the sales there... by Nijika · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Is it me or is selling to 20 or 30 of anything in a year or so really, really lackluster? How much are these licenses that they can proudly announce having 20 or 30 customers? I mean even if they cost as much as a Mercedes CLK each I wouldn't get too hyped about it considering this is a publicly traded company.

    Depressing.

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  10. consider the source by John_Sauter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The SCO Group has such a poor reputation for telling the truth that I wouldn't be surprised to learn that both sales claims are pure fabrication.
    John Sauter (J_Sauter@Empire.Net)

  11. Chris Sontag = Joe Isuzu by Jaywalk · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Remember the old Isuzu commercials? The spokesman would come out and make some outrageous claim ("Zero to sixty in one second."), but the caption underneath would say, "He's lying." Keep that little caption in mind whenever SCO issues a press release.

    Most of the time in the past when SCO announced that someone had "bought" a Linux license it turned out to be a deception. The most common ploy was to tack a Linux license onto a court settlement or a purchase of a Unixware license. The article quotes only SCO sources and the customers are not named, so don't expect this time to be different. Wait a few days and see if any customer names come up, then see what the customers have to say.

    I'd guess they'll say something like, "Linux license? What Linux license?"

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  12. Re:If IBM wins... by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think the question would be whether SCO will have any money left to give back at all.

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  13. Re:In the immortal words of PT Barnum.... by technothrasher · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ..There is a sucker born every minute.


    If that were true then humanity would be getting smarter. The birth rate is much higher now than it was during Barnum's time.


    Well, just to be pedantic, the above statement only sets a minimum 'sucker birth rate'. It doesn't preclude more than one sucker being born each minute.

  14. Wonder by Sai+Babu · · Score: 3, Insightful



    1) If SCO includes the licensed material with the license. If I'm gonna buy a license, I want to be sure I'm running the code I licensed and not some miscreants cobbled hack that delivers the same functionality.

    2) How to merge this binary with my linux once I've got the linux compiled? If I'm gonna buy it, I want to use it. That way if my linux fscks up there is someone I can sue. SCO warrants the stuff, right?

    3) The market has any faith. Baystar appears to be cutting it's losses. I heard at the bar that baystar was finessed into keeping quiet through margin advantage on another investors bailout. IIRC Baystar was questioning SCO's claims on linux back in the summer (northern hemisphere).

  15. I'd be Willing to Bet by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The contract says "Nope!"

    The bluff by SCO is that you can buy a license now and pay not so much, or you can wait until after the lawsuit and if they win you'll be paying a lot more. If you fold now, you don't get your chips back if SCO loses. At this point we're pretty sure that IBM holds all the aces, but I bet that most of these sales are politically motivated or the people buying them aren't very good at poker either.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the comapnies in question are associates of the companies in the US that purchased licenses. It'd be just like SCO to count the Microsoft or Sun UK branch offices as new licenscees.

    Besides which, if SCO loses the next legal action you will see out of them will be a bankruptcy filing.

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  16. Re:If IBM wins... by SoTuA · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Your money back? From dealing with SCO?

    Somehow, this sinfest comic comes to mind when thinking about the licensing contract with SCO and the "your money back" concept...

  17. Damned if you do, damned if you don't by Linuxathome · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When you're dealing with companies with million dollar accounts and expenditures, it's an executive decision that's required for these expenses. I personally think that the executives are doing it to save their asses (no, not assets, asses): they all are covering their butts on the slim, slim chance that SCO might win. That way, the board won't fire them if SCO wins.

    But the downside is the the legions of Linux lovers will cry "foul" and "traitor" if they do. Hmmm...losing your job versus some people calling you l0s3r? What would you choose?

  18. Re:So is there an angle to buying a license? by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You think there's going to be anything left of SCO if IBM wins?

  19. Sold to who and for how much? by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because it seems to me that SCO might be willing to pay people to take their farcical licenses, just to generate this kind of pitiful press release. Given that SCO don't crow about how big these 'purchasers' are, it seems reasonable that they're small, and small companies don't in general buy (in the sense of paying money to a vendor) for licenses that they don't need.

    Hmm, I wonder if the 'purchasers' insisted on anonymity as a condition of 'sale'? You know, I'm half tempted to give them a call myself and see how much I can squeeze out of them for the priviledge of increasing their UK 'sales' by 50%.

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  20. Who are those 20 to 30 organizations? by dtjohnson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Buying a Linux license from SCO is pretty high on the list of useless/worthless things to buy so perhaps there's some other stuff they might buy.

  21. No Such Thing Is "Apparent" by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > ..SCO's intellectual property that is apparently
    > present in Linux distributions...

    It most certainly is not. Despite two court orders requiring them to do so The SCO Group (which is _not_ the Santa Cruz Operation) has failed to produce a single line of infringing code.

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  22. In the UK..... by mormop · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's a crime of "obtaining funds by deception" aimed at nailing fraudsters who use false information e.g. claiming property as theirs to extract money from people. Given that SCO have no proof of ownership over the disputed code I can't see how they can sell anyone anything.

    Should the case fall through I look forward to the arrest of the head of the UK arm of SCO and, should McBride, Sontag etc., ever land in the UK their arrests also. After all, conmen are among the lowest forms of scum.

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