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Feds Propose National Database of College Students

Dore writes "The Department of Education wants to collect personally identifiable information on all college students, including name, address, birth date, gender, race, and SSN. Privacy is assured. The No Child Left Behind Act, which holds primary and secondary schools accountable prompted this line of thinking. Now colleges should be held accountable. If you made it to college, you were not left behind, and further attempts at monitoring citizens should be."

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  1. Privacy is assured. by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Oh? Well, that certainly clears things up, no privacy concerns then, its not like anyone bribeable will have access to it...

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    1. Re:Privacy is assured. by demachina · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well the Reagan administration and the CIA pretty much did create them in the 1980's to fight a proxy war against the U.S.S.R in Afghanistan when. Its something they did exceptionally well since they tied a superpower, with vast military superiority, in knots for 10 years and started the collapse of the Soviet Union. The disaffected and disillusioned vets coming back from Afghanistan did more to bring down the Soviet Union than Reagan running his mouth and squandering money on defense. The few billion he pumped in to the Mujadeen in the Pakistan tribal areas, which included Osama, did more than all the rest put together.

      Not sure I would link Al Qaida to the the U.S. government though you never know. You would think they would have managed to catch Bin Laden by now if they were trying.

      I think they are probably more like a pet that's gone bad and bites the hand of the one who fed it. Manueal Noriega, former head of Panama was like that too. He was a CIA stooge until he turned on them and we invaded Panama to take him down. He is rotting in Federal pen now.

      I will have to agree the Republicans and the Bush administration have benefited mightily from 9/11 and Al Qaida whomever they answer to. Bush was heading towards a truly mediocre one term presidency before 9/11 save him.

      They couldn't have gotten away with any of shit they've pulled without it:

      - Jacking defense and intelligence up to a half trillion a year
      - The Patriot Act
      - Invading Iraq
      - Scaring the American people so bad that they reelected him despite a record of incompetence and abuse that has most of the world despising the U.S.
      - Destroying our rights to due process i.e. arresting people indefinitely with out charges or trial and subjecting them to varying degress of torture.

      And coming soon:

      - National ID cards, if we are lucky, with RFID tags so we can all be tracked every minute
      - Merging the CIA, NSA, NRO, DIA and part of the FBI in to one all seeing all powerful spying agency, free to spy on Americans and foreigners alike, that would be the envy of the old KGB and Richard Nixon.
      - Changes in the Senate rules so they can appoint extremist judges with a simple majority followed by "rule changes" to eliminate the fillibuster so Democrats can't stop them from passing their extremist agenda. Once the courts are packed and the Democrats in the Senate castrated we will have a "democraticly" elected dictatorship.

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  2. let's include professors, too by ChipMonk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    After all, aren't they the ones indoctrinating our future leaders with all this nanny-state nonsense?

  3. Re:Privacy problems, yes, but.... by vorpal22 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've got news for you, bud. If not-so-little Johnny, who is now in college, doesn't live up to performance expectations, he'll be kicked out of the school after a semester. Then your problem will be solved - your tax dollars will no longer be sent to him.

    You'll never have a complete say over where your tax dollars go, but this is one case where I think the inherent systems will succeed in assuring that the worthy receive your contributions. We don't need more restrictive measures put into place.

  4. Re:Whoah! by ad0gg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Revolution usually starts out at the university level. Look china and Tiananmen square protest or Kent State protetest during the vietnam war.

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  5. It might be worse than you know... by benhocking · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My mother is a lead teacher for special education and has told me that this act applies to her children as well. Some of these children have IQ's below 60, and the school is held responsible for all of them (not just a percentage), passing the standardized tests.

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  6. Who's money is it anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now, however, there is a movement in Washington, particularly among Republicans, to demand greater accountability from universities in exchange for the federal support they provide.

    That ummm, who provides?

    I don't want a university system that it tied to the agenda of our federal officials.

    There is a cost to not monitoring individuals and I for one am willing to pay it.

  7. Re:Let the trouble-makers drop-out by blincoln · · Score: 4, Interesting

    However, some of the kids in 9th grade, might actually straighten up. Those who are 16, however, are very unlikely to straighten up by 18.

    When I was 16, I was about ready to drop out of high school. I wasn't learning anything useful, most of my teachers had bad attitudes, and I couldn't take any classes that actually interested me (apart from a visual art class with an excellent teacher). I had a 1.0 GPA my last semester at high school (3 0.0 and 1 4.0 averaged).

    Fortunately, my state has a program that allows HS students to do their last two years at a community college, so I was able to learn about things like astronomy and logic, and take government and sociology courses from teachers who were interested in the subjects and knew how to teach them well.

    I never got a four-year degree, but on my way towards one I got into IT and now I work as a systems engineer at a Fortune 500 company. I start school again in about a month (after a six year hiatus) to earn a BS and possibly go further in another field.

    There are a lot of 16-year-olds who are genuinely uninterested in learning, but many of the people I knew had been failed by the public education system the same way I would have been without that community college program.

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    "...always new atoms but always doing the same dance, remembering what the dance was yesterday." -Richard Feynman
  8. Re:Several. by Not+The+Real+Me · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (5) Due to visa restrictions, foreign exchange students may not be able to get jobs outside of the university therefore universities rely upon them for cheap labor.

    *Note: My guess about student visa restrictions.