Slashdot Mirror


NOAA Adopts New Net Policy

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has adopted a new policy which applies to provision of all National Weather Service environmental information, including forecasts, warnings, and observations. In June, /. reported that NOAA was taking comments on the proposed policy. Hundreds of Slashdotters responded. And it made a difference: NOAA will make its data and products available in internet-accessible, vendor-neutral form and will use other dissemination technologies, e.g. satellite broadcast, NOAA Weather Radio, and wireless, as appropriate. Congrats to the Slash community for making a difference and helping to set US Govt policy.

15 of 204 comments (clear)

  1. free weatherbug? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does this mean someone could write a free version of weatherbug that doesn't include the annoying spyware and registration? That'd be nice.

    --
    A slashdotter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber.
    1. Re:free weatherbug? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just get yourself the WeatherFox extension for Mozilla Firefox to use instead. That way not only is the code of it free (as in beer and freedom), but also the updates come from the Weather Channel and not the Weather Channel rejects that end up working for WeatherBug.

    2. Re:free weatherbug? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sure, I'll write one but it'll use Clippy. "You seem to be getting hit by a PYA hurricane."

    3. Re:free weatherbug? by randyjparker · · Score: 5, Informative
      I just corresponded with Jon, the developer of ForecastFox. I work as a contractor at The Weather Channel, and was surprised that they had objected to the name 'WeatherFox'. Jon explained that it was the owner of the domain name weatherfox.com that objected, not TWC.

      TWC is actually a huge supporter of open source software, to the point of providing full time employment for a FreeBSD kernel developer. We've directly funded some other open source projects too, and try to give back in lots of ways.

  2. The system works!!! by plover · · Score: 5, Informative
    Slashdot even got an honorable mention in the NOAA writeup (third paragraph)!

    I'm happy because my concerns were addressed. I was afraid that the proposed policy was going to give commercial interests the ability to reqeust the NOAA discontinue a service without review, meaning that if weather.com didn't like the ability of the NWS to issue point forecasts they could behind-the-scenes ask for it to be ended. The modified policy now states they will "Establish... orderly processes for seeking input and suggestions to create, modify, or discontinue products and services".

    It's a cool feeling to be a part of a process that actually seems to have worked to our advantage for a change.

    --
    John
    1. Re:The system works!!! by idiotnot · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can find this stuff pretty easily from NOAA if you take a look around. I'm a broadcaster, and I look at these every day when I'm preparing my forecasts. We get prepared weather from a commercial provider, but I find it to be severely lacking, because the community my station serves has weather that can be quite different, depending upon where you are. During the winter, you can go from just rain to a foot of snow within 40 miles.

      Here's the site I visit every day. Take a look at things like the "Area Forecast Discussions." While they're a bit cryptic to read, they give you a better picture than the limited local forecast.

  3. NOAA's electronic survival by TWX · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, since "Hundreds of Slashdotters responded..." and NOAA both kept functioning and was able listen to the comments, would it be safe to say that they weathered the storm?

    --
    Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
  4. See? by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not every *AA is evil!

  5. NOAA & EAS by Y-Crate · · Score: 4, Informative

    It can never be emphasized enough how utterly valuable a SAME equipped weather radio can be. They do not just allow you to get up to the minute weather reports, but they also act as your first warning of any kind of serious emergency in your area.

    Warning sirens are only intended to notify people outdoors, and TVs and radios are only useful if you are awake, the unit is on and you are within earshot and paying attention at the time.

    When NOAA or an emergency management agency (NOAA allows them to utilize the system without running the transmissions by them first) sends out a warning message, it is proceeded by what sounds like intermittent static. In fact, the system is sending out a burst of number sequences that are decoded by SAME equipped radios that compare the number sequence to that which the user has previously entered. If they do not match, the radio ignores the message, if they do match however, a generally ear-piercing alarm sounds while the radio interprets the alert code and displays the corresponding text message before the computer voice announcement (or real person if the situation warrants it) from the NOAA station begins to broadcast. The process takes about 10 seconds (this is to give you a chance to get closer to the radio before the voice warning begins).

    Here is a complete list of all of the emergency codes

    They are not as cheap as a clock radio, but they are worth every penny. I'm still astonished when I come across people who live in tornado-prone areas who don't buy them despite their financial ability to do so and their fear of dangerous weather.

  6. Re:Good stuff! by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is scary stuff. If the terrorists got their hands on weather reports in the USA there is no telling what trouble they could stir up. I imagine this kind of thing should remain secret and proprietary.

  7. Re:Government not a lost cause yet by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ironically, the bureaucracy apparently listens better than actual elected officials!

    --

    "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

  8. GREAT!! Who do we THANK?! by tweedlebait · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We should write them some nice 'thank you' letters!

    I missed this story and acting on it, but if someone with some political savvy could direct myself and others to the people who listened (and those who didn't) to ./'ers input and made decisions with our ideas in mind it would be great!

    --
    Firefox & /. ? Use this often:
  9. Amerstam Vallon is a troll... read for more. by swiftstream · · Score: 5, Informative

    Before anybody accepts this immediately as true, I'd just like to point out that this guy has posted lots of things about his personal achievements and his accomplishments, so much that you have to be a bit skeptical. Besides being the brother of an NOAA analyst, he claims all of the following... (taken from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=131294&cid=109 59811)

    Ken Jennings was my roommate freshman year at Brigham Young University

    I worked for NASA for 8 years straight out of MIT undergrad.

    I'm an editor for Tom's Hardware Guide

    I worked for a particular company that denied another company a lucrative contract just because that company's CTO had bullied my company's CEO when he was in high school

    I have TWO friends who work at Bungie

    I work on LAMP software and deploy to customer's websites.

    I obtained a preview release [of GIMP 2.0]


    Forgive me for being skeptical, but I have trouble believing all that. A child of the post pointed to above says that the parent poster is a known troll, and a check of his recent comments shows many rated troll.

    So perhaps this shouldn't be 5, Interesting?

    --
    Be a PATRIOT--because the only thing we have to fear is the lack thereof.
  10. 33% of response were from Slashdot by Ingolfke · · Score: 5, Funny
    There were a total of 1473 comments, of those 490 were submitted by Slashdoters, according to the linked-from URL. This is 33.26%, which on the surface seems like a significant impact, but when you look a little closer you'll see that the #s are not quite as impressive as they seem. Here's the breakdown

    63 - In Soviet Russia the weather updates you.
    19 - Notices that this service is already provided by Goatse.cx
    3 - Requests to add a feature that notifies you anytime Natalie Portman comes within 50 meters of hot grits.
    16 - Pondering what a beowulf cluster of these might be like.
    48 - Blasting the NOAA because Microsoft is secretly behind bad weather.
    27 - Claimed the request was a dupe and cited existing services provided by the NOAA.
    16 - Only old Koreans use the weather.
    19 - Claims that "1 0wnz d4 w34th3r cuz 1m s0 133t"
    193 - Users suggesting the NOAA needs to rely on perl, python, BSD, Linux, MySQL, PHP, emacs, vi, haskell, or ruby for all future development efforts.
    1 - Comment suggesting the weather should be properly called GNU/Weather (thanks RMS!)
    11 - Requested a change for notices about clear sunny days. The new notice will read, "Nothing to see here. Move along."
    13 - Requesting that the raw weather data and weather forcasting software be sent as part of an ebuild that they could emerge and compile the report anytime they wanted, because they've got their Gentoo system totally tweaked out for this type of application.
    27 - Asked for help getting WeatherBug to work correctly on Linux w/ Wine.
    9 - Posts about how Netcraft had confirmed it, weather is dead.
    1 - Comment with made up statistics about how important changing was.
    1 - Comment with made up statistics about how important not changing was.
    32 - EA employees asked for pictures, b/c they've never seen the light of day, a blue sky or snow lit by daylight.
    1 - Comment that read...


    To Whom It May Concern:

    Thanks, this is a great idea. Go for it. You guys rock. I've only been here a few days now, but I'm glad I could give my 2 cents, check out my blog (excluded). Also, I was thinking about going into programming because I took a class on C++, and I wrote a program that would randomly guess the weather, but since you're going to do this maybe I need to consider not studying IT in college... any suggestions?

    Josh Milsken
    Sophmore, Wuleska High School
    Topeka, KS

    P.S. - My birthday is next week... gonna be 15... gonna get my learners permit. Woohoo!


    Quite an impact.

  11. congrats /.ers for your next assignment.... by museumpeace · · Score: 4, Informative

    Be sure to attend The FTC workshop on P2P networks If you read the adgenda, you would think FTC is trying to convince people that P2P is a threat to consumers. It would make sense to use a spurious issue that pushes congressional hot buttons if you wanted to slap restrictive laws on P2P since protecting copyrights doesn't get out the votes.
    Oh, yeah the weather. I bike to work in new england: a very detailed forcast is critical to my saftey so this little victory is a serious win from my perspective. I already paid taxes for this data...be damned if I'll pay twice for it.

    --
    SLASHDOT: news for people who can't concentrate on work or have no life at all and got tired of yelling back at the TV.