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AbiWord 2.2 Unleashed

uwog writes "AbiWord 2.2 marks a new milestone in the life of our beloved Ant. With a native port to MacOSX, and new features such as live updating tables of contents and TextBox support, Abi is finally a grown up Ant. Read the full announcement or go grab your own copy."

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  1. localized fonts? by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 3, Informative
    last time I checked (1.7 version), Abiword had terrible problems with fonts, especially with country-specific characters.

    If you are non-english person - how's Abiword working for you?

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    1. Re:localized fonts? by tessdfield · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, the Windows version uses uniscribe by default now, so the situation may have improved (1.x was quite a while ago too, so if you're on unix it will have improved there as well). There are some known issues with bidi support on Mac OS X and there are also known issues with Arabic, Indic, Korean, Chinese, and Japanese scripts, but that's because no one has volunteered to assist the developers in improving the existing support.

    2. Re:localized fonts? by Vlad_the_Inhaler · · Score: 4, Informative

      Quoting the article, which you appear not to have read:
      Among the new features in AbiWord 2.2 are:

      * A MacOSX port
      * Tables of contents
      * Document history/revisions
      * Text frames
      * Better support for international scripts and locales
      * List folding
      * Text wrapping around images
      * Faster rendering
      * Dashboard integration
      * Visual drag and drop

      This release also includes an enormous number of bug fixes and improvements across the board.

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    3. Re:localized fonts? by gnarlin · · Score: 1, Informative

      Not to good. I'm Icelandic. I can mostly happily write the documents (along with the following Icelandic characters ð ö æ ó á é ú ý etc.), but everytime I try to print any file containing Icelandic character the program creates a tab space behind every one of those characters. Really wierd and frustrating.

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  2. Re:"Unleashed" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Clearly you haven't read much corporate software marketing recently.

  3. Re:Mac, Linux and Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Well, there is NeoOffice for the Mac, which is OpenOffice with a Java GUI.

    Anonymous Cow

  4. Re:AbiWord vs. OpenOffice? by ClamChwdrMan · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's pretty good. It definitely starts up faster than OpenOffice does, in both windows and linux. I would say that it doesn't always open .doc files perfectly though, especially if there is a lot of complicated things in the file. Other than that, both are great, but I tend to use OpenOffice more since I need to open .doc files all the time.

  5. Re:Does a standalone WP have a use now? by tessdfield · · Score: 4, Informative

    AbiSource will integrate AbiWord with other GNOME Office apps instead of creating a new spreadsheet (Gnumeric), presentation (Criawips), or database (GNOME-DB) component.

  6. Re:I like Abiword.... by MikeXpop · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hey, I'm not alone!

    That's the main reason I use abiword. A lot of my friends who use OSS prefer OOo Writer, but I don't see why. Abiword has all the features of Word that I need, but absolutely none of the bloat. It's also one of the few open sourced programs* I can feel confident recommending to my non-geek friends, and that's saying a lot.

    *The others being Firefox and gaim

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  7. Re:Ant? by tessdfield · · Score: 2, Informative

    The mascot for AbiWord is "Abi the ant."

  8. Re:Does a standalone WP have a use now? by poofyhairguy82 · · Score: 4, Informative
    First of all, Abiword is part of an office suite: gnome-office.


    Are we going to see "AbiExcel?"

    How about Gnumeric?.

    But does it matter is Abiword is part of a suite? I use it on Linux because I need a good Word Processor, and Abiword takes less overhead and looks better than the OO writer. But each to his own...

  9. Re:I like Abiword.... by KingPunk · · Score: 2, Informative

    i too like abiword, but if you prelink your libraries and stuff,
    with OOo you'd see a significant response time jump.
    and another big issue with abiword is that it more often than not,
    doesn't read or make compatable MS Documents.
    ...which sucks in any really "productive" enviroment.

    just thought i'd add my $0.02
    --kingpunk

  10. Re:I like Abiword.... by n4t3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been using 2.2.0 for a few weeks after receiving a link to it from the Abisource team (I reported a problem which the new version fixed) and I've been comparing it with MS Office v.X Word on my 700MHz iBook. I've had troubles with images in AbiWord. I won't go into it but suffice to say I haven't had good luck opening doc files with images. It also seems to have problems with long documents - it really bogs down compared to Word. The fonts are really nice and crisp though on my machine, nicer than my version of Word (admitedly not the latest version of Word). Abiword does still crash occassionally on my OSX10.3.6 though less than in past versions. I will continue to follow AbiWord as it clearly has promise, but its still not replacing Word for me yet.

  11. Re:AbiWord vs. OpenOffice? by mscnln · · Score: 1, Informative

    You can import an OpenOffice document in AbiWord 2.0, you just need to install the plugin.

  12. LaTex? by the_truk_stop · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm sure that a mature student such as yourself knows to use LaTeX for the advanced math formulas you're no-doubt creating. LaTeX is the only real answer for complicated math equations and such. Check out LaTeX: Math into LaTeX Short Course.


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  13. Re:Keeping up appearances by tessdfield · · Score: 5, Informative

    The longer these issues are kept out of Bugzilla, the longer they persist (yes, that's a request for you to add them to Bugzilla ;))

  14. First impressions from a MacOS X User by Llywelyn · · Score: 3, Informative

    Before we begin, let me emphasize that I have no strong need for a word processor, using various LaTeX tools when I need something high level and professional, and only keep a word processor around for opening other people's documents and quick/small work. When I do use one, Mellel is generally my word processor of choice.

    I don't use MS Word.

    A word processor for me has to integrate pretty seamlessly with the operating system--it has to look and feel like a MacOS X application--so I focused on where AbiWord falls short of that mark in this review.

    Using it on a 12" PowerBook:

    * It initially takes up an enormous amount of screen real-estate, with the main window stretching down into my dock where I have to move the window to get to it.

    * Korean input was a little funky compared to normal MacOS X entry. It showed up okay, but the intermediate steps don't display.

    * The same appears to be true of all special character/multi-key entry (such as option-e e to generate an accented e). The end result shows up fine, but the intermediary display for what I am doing is nonexistent.

    * The initial display of the tool palette is largely redundant with the tool bars.

    * Slow when on a highish processor load. I type text and it hesitates a moment before displaying it. This is noticeably worse than the rest of the system under the same load.

    * Some standard command keys do not work as they should (e.g., command-t). Others are just strange (command-. is "paste unformatted").

    * Highlighting is strange, reversing the color of the highlighted text. It also feels slow and clunky.

    * On the plus side, it now seems to use the system dictionary for spelling, which is a Good Thing™.

    * It doesn't support drag-and-drop from the desktop or to other apps.

    * It doesn't always like pasting PDF clips copied out from other documents (namely TeXShop).

    * Nonstandard save dialogue that gives options "No" [space] "Yes" and "Cancel" with the default going to "Cancel."

    Solid, they've made a lot of improvement since I last used it (particularly on MacOS X), but it isn't there yet.

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  15. Re:Does a standalone WP have a use now? by msevior · · Score: 4, Informative

    No Need for AbiExcel. Gnumeric is the spreadsheet of gnome-office and we will continues to improve integration with it. Gnumeric now works well on Windows. Other gnome-office type apps will bubble out of the GNOME incubator into the rest of the world too.

    For now Abiword copies and pastes nices with gnumeric. Select a region in gnumeric, copy, paste into word, you get a nice table containing Gnumeric's contents.

    Not full embedding yet but we'll get there.

  16. Re:"Native" Mac version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hey guys,

    I'm just one person, with occasional bits of help from others. I'm working on making AbiWord behave like a native app, but I must confess that although I have been using Macs for over four years I don't have a particularly exact view of how native apps are supposed to behave.

    Anyway, the Cocoa port is very much a work in progress, and any suggestions / complaints should be filed in Abi's bugzilla.

    Don't forget to check for latest development information at:
    http://www.abisource.com/~fjf/

    This is free software, feel free to jump in and fix what you don't like.

    fjf

  17. Re:I like Abiword.... by downhole · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just grabbed it and tried it with a few documents. So far, it doesn't seem to like images. It didn't display them in simpler documents, and died on a complex one On the plus side, it's smaller and faster then anything else (except maybe TextEdit), and appears to work fine with text and tables. I appreciate the simplicity too - it's nice to have a functional word processor that doesn't try to do everything under the sun. The real test, though, is interoperability with most versions of MS Word.

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  18. Re:Word count and formulae by rco3 · · Score: 3, Informative

    LyX.

    It's a LaTeX front-end, and more. It's a perfectly serviceable word-processor that uses LaTeX for rendering, and I first began using because of the equation editor.

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  19. Re:Word count and formulae by bigberk · · Score: 3, Informative
    As is a formula editor.
    What are you talking about? Have you even tried the formula editor in OpenOffice.org? Just do Insert -> Object -> Formula. As an electrical engineering student, this this is one of the most beautiful equation editors I've seen (better than Word Perfect's which I used to use). You can type meaningful expressions like this,
    C over R = G over {1 + G} = {%pi e^{0.1s}} over {1 + s over 10}
  20. Re:Does a standalone WP have a use now? by Calroth · · Score: 2, Informative

    Really, the best all-around word processor is TeX, but AbiWord seems like the best tool I've found so far for little quick jobs where TeX would be too much trouble.

    For most of the power of TeX without a lot of the hassle, try LyX. It's a graphical front-end for LaTeX, with an interface akin to a word processor. However, it still applies TeX philosophy, namely, you supply the content and it will supply the layout, you don't need to mess with that.

  21. Re:Does a standalone WP have a use now? by bcrowell · · Score: 2, Informative
    Here's what I have in my notes from when I tried LyX:
    • To get good-looking PDF output (not ugly bitmapped fonts), Edit>Preferences>Outputs, change dvips to dvips -Ppdf. Actually, this doesn't help; still looks bad in xpdf, even worse in acroread. Also, uses yukky nonstandard widgets with nonstandard behaviors.
  22. Use LyX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    LyX is a fantastic graphical word processor based on LaTeX. It's obviously outstanding for technical documents with lots of equations and you never have to touch actual LaTeX code if you don't want to.

    http://www.lyx.org

    Native versions are available for Linux, Unix, Windows and Mac OS X.

  23. Re:Does a standalone WP have a use now? by Calroth · · Score: 2, Informative

    To get good-looking PDF output (not ugly bitmapped fonts)...

    Well, for what it's worth, to get good-looking PDF output, I suggest dvipdf. It's all anti-aliased, etc. etc. and looks fine in Acrobat Reader, etc. Output from dvips looks good when printed, which you'd expect, since it outputs a PostScript file.

  24. Re:Does a standalone WP have a use now? by Coryoth · · Score: 3, Informative

    To get good looking PDF output out of a LaTeX document (whihc is all LyX produces really) you ought to be using pdflatex, which goes straight from LaTeX to PDF, no intermediary DVI form. If you include useful modules like hyperlinks you can automatically create document structure links for Acrobat to read, as well as having all your ref's and cite's be clickable links within the PDF. As an added bonus pdflatex supports jpg and png image types, so there's no messing around with converting your images to eps.

    Jedidiah.

  25. Re:Well, it LOOKS nice. by arodland · · Score: 2, Informative

    LyX flattens the learning curve for LaTeX enough that normal people have a chance of getting it before they trip :)