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Google Flips Back to Groups Beta (Again)

afabbro writes "Google backed off its beta of Google Groups within 24 hours of making it mandatory for all users. You may recall that its lack of features (date searches), unwanted features (e-mail masking), and clunky user interface met with a very chilly reception here. Unfortunately, as of December 5th, Google Groups Beta is back and you can't get to the original (wonderful) Google Groups anymore. Be sure to share your opinion with Google."

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  1. boo by Quasar1999 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't believe that you removed a FREE service that I liked and used and replaced it with another FREE service with lesser features... I'm sure you will release the old service as a pay service... how DARE you try and make money...

    signed... disgruntled freeloader.

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    1. Re:boo by Ubergrendle · · Score: 4, Funny

      They would be charging for the service, not the content. Usenet is public domain... you can archive 10,000,000 gb of information if you wish on your home data storage array too if you'd like.

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    2. Re:boo by WoodenRobot · · Score: 2, Funny
      Maybe he printed it out, scanned it, OCR'd it and then posted it on usenet?

      I know I got pretty bored before I managed to get my current job.

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  2. Not bad enough by wallyghost · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks to some drunken post-hockey game USENET posting a couple years back, I was really hoping they'd come up with something a lot worse. Hate to retire the email address, but I guess it's either that or live with those posts forever. (Oh, and of course the worst of what I wrote was replied back to me by someone else so I can't unpost it)

  3. Re:Huh? by Zorilla · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is Slashdot. They were probably referring to a change to Google Beta made in October 2002.

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  4. Re:I like it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    I wonder - am I alone in seeing the "Google Groups 2" as a significant improvement on the original?
    So you're the guy who liked Cherry Coke?
  5. Re:Sucky. by dvk · · Score: 2, Funny

    > It's going to have to show the old, archived data still, which it obviously can with both the old and new systems. So why not continue to offer it?

    Not sure about the technical reasons, but t the very least, there's also the business reason - any code there is needs to be maintained. Which costs the company money. So any code the company doesn't need won't be maintained and thus will be retired.

    This is just a WAG, there could be other reasons too (underlying data / APIs / etc..)

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  6. Re:original Google Groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    shhssss!! Google Central Command might hear you and ruin those Google Groups access-points too!

  7. Re:In other news... by Dwedit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Google translation inhales the sphere of the donkey.

  8. Re:It doesn't sound bad at all... by sam_handelman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Doctors are nothing but shills for the pharmaceutical industry! Through UseNET, I'm able to find safe and effective traditional remedies - like the leeches fattening themselves on the backs of my hands, as I type - that keep me happy, healthy and productive.

    Also, quite frankly, there are too many drug interactions for any doctor to keep track of. But, through useNET, I learned that chewing cinnabar kills off leeches! So I've switched to an alternative treatment for my social anxiety disorder - electric shocks! They don't bother the leeches any, and after fifteen minutes of 30 volts I'm ready for a leech covered night on the town.

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  9. Re:It doesn't sound bad at all... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    "Ford Motor Company Inc. makes cars! Vroom vrooom!"

    The jury's still out on that.

  10. Google - Real Ultimate Power by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Funny
    After reading the submission's tittle, I can't help but think:

    Google can change beta environments anytime they want! Google changes their interfaces ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These guys are so crazy and awesome that they flip betas ALL the time. I heard that there was this Google developer who was eating at a diner. And when some dude entered a Groups search the developer changed the whole Groups interface. My friend Orkut said that he saw a developer totally undercut some interface just because people were used to it.

    And that's what I call REAL Ultimate Power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  11. Re:Email masking... by _randy_64 · · Score: 5, Funny
    For example, in Objective-C, there are several keywords that start with @, such as @interface. Some archives of Objective-C mailing lists have e-mail blockers, and so you see weird stuff like:


    But surely you and the other guy using Objective-C know each other and your email addresses by now?! ;-)

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  12. Re:More Important Than The Human Genome Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So? Are you going to just complain about it or do something about it? Hmm? This is what needs to be done:

    1. Find lots of disk-space. Lots!

    2. Setup a web server that can handle the enormous amount of data and traffic that is required by a usenet archive.

    3. Distribute a program to volunteers that will access Google Groups, extract all the articles, and store these in the disk-space from 1.

    4. Implement the software to run the usenet archive website.

    I'll open-source and donate my version of 3 to you, I'll also implement 4 if you want. All you have to do is come up with 1 and 2.

    So? Are you just a whiner or a doer?