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HP Plots New Courses with HP-UX/Tru64

Uberhacker.Com writes "HP has given up on trying to bring key parts of Compaq/DEC's Tru64 operating system into HP-UX. They had once planned for the Tru64 goodies to arrive this year and made a big deal of this quick turnaround when it first acquired Compaq. Ironically, HP also announced today that it is expanding its Alpha RetainTrust program for Tru64 UNIX customers." The linked article also notes that HP has decided that it will proceed forward with purchasing some of the technology from Veritas.

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  1. Re:Maybe if they would bring back VMS,,, by johnalex · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Bring back?" We just installed a new HP Alpha DS 25: 2 1 GH processors, 2 GB RAM, a ton of hard drive space, OpenVMS 7.3.2. It's replacing a DEC (yes, a Digital) Alpha 2100. Wow, it's sweet. I just tried a job that once took all night on the old machine run in less than 15 minutes on the new one. Our month-end processing that once took 4 hours can run in around 40 minutes.

    OpenVMS is still around, it's still running, and it's better than ever. I suppose the question is what will happen when the Alphas die.

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  2. Aargh! This is really frustrating! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some of the TruCluster stuff is REALLY COOL!

    For those not familiar, picture a filesystem that can be mounted on 2 or more hosts at once instead of mounted from one then NFS-exported (or Samba, either way) from one host to all the others.

    TruCluster was way ahead of its' time, the Digital guys were WAY ahead of their time.

    This just really ticks me off because the Veritas version is NOT AS GOOD and has FAR MORE BUGS.

    Aaargh!

    Some days, I hate HP.

  3. Re:Maybe if they would bring back VMS,,, by ToLu+the+Happy+Furby · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not an emulator; they are porting OpenVMS to Itanium. (They are not, as far as I know, emulating the Alpha instruction set; apps will need to be recompiled.)

  4. Re:good opportunity to say by stilwebm · · Score: 2, Informative

    That is what happens when you make a History major who only cares about her personal income the CEO of your company.

    You conveniently left out the two more important parts of her education from her biography:

    Fiorina holds a master's degree in business administration from the Robert H. Smith School of Business at the University of Maryland at College Park, Md., and a master of science degree from MIT's Sloan School.

  5. Re:aside from printers by rbegga · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are already seeing the knowledge of many Alpha engineers being put to work in products from AMD. If you recall when the Athlon was first introduced they talked about the bus design being based on the Alpha EV6.

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  6. artcles by plopez · · Score: 2, Informative

    both the reg and the inqwell have more information. Somewhere buried in the stories of the past few weeks is the strange fact that Compaq/DEC had a license for Veritas storage technology file system which they folded into Tru64 and now HP is going to pay for the licence a second time for HP-UX. Truly a sign of a management team that does not know what it has.

    THe letters from customers are interesting as well.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/03/hp_tru64 _l etters/
    http://www.chipzilla.com/?article=20021
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/02/hp_ends_tr u64/

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  7. Re:Maybe if they would bring back VMS,,, by pchan- · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not an emulator; they are porting OpenVMS to Itanium.

    yes, there is native openvms on itanium.

    (They are not, as far as I know, emulating the Alpha instruction set; apps will need to be recompiled.)

    not true. hp has a third solution. they are going to provide a "binary translation" program, that will take an openvms/alpha app (binary, not source) and generate an identical app for openvms/ia64. this means that the applications should behave identically on both platforms. this removes a lot of the validation concerns that customers may have when moving apps to a new system that is not binary compatible with what they've been using for years. this also helps in cases where the source code is either gone or impossible to build nowadays.