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Musicians on Internet & Filesharing

reverseengineer writes "A Pew Internet & American Life survey asked (large PDF) 809 artists and 2,755 musicians, songwriters, and publishers about how they use the Internet, and whether it has been beneficial or detrimental to their success. Results (larger PDF) are quite interesting, with near 50-50 splits on a variety of questions involving fair use and filesharing. A quote from Pew's summary: 'Across the board, artists and musicians are more likely to say that the internet has made it possible for them to make more money from their art than they are to say it has made it harder to protect their work from piracy or unlawful use.' Here is the NY Times summary [ Free registration blah blah ] of the survey."

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  1. Results not surprising... by Sefert · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The artists that lose big are the big artists - but most artists are struggling. The big challenge for 98% of artists isn't combating theft, but rather getting their name and work known enough to be in demand. Personally, I believe that any artist looking to get recognized would be wise to put their work out on the peer-to-peer network, with links to their websites in the filename info. Unfortunately, people like the RIAA (who represent the other 2%) who are making this kind of thing difficult.

    1. Re:Results not surprising... by lopingrhondo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wow, you are so wrong I can't believe it. Rare and independant music thrives on *many* p2p networks. There are whole torrent sites devoted to it.

  2. Title by Kipsaysso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its legality cannot be discussed as long as it is always refered to first and formost as ILLEGAL filesharing.

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  3. It's a fame thing by bigtallmofo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think you can reasonably accurately predict (with some exceptions of course) where an artist falls on the "Internet Good" or "Internet Bad" debate based on how famous they are.

    Those that are already famous want to wring every cent out of the fame they've worked hard to get and therefore loathe the Internet's ease of file sharing.

    Those looking to become famous love the Internet's ease of file sharing because it enables more people to be more easily exposed to their music.

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    1. Re:It's a fame thing by Orgazmus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When you care more for the money then the music, you are not a real artist anymore.

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  4. Why do musicians go for recording contracts? by yorkpaddy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why do musicians go for recording contracts anymore? It is obvious that the vast majority of them recieve no significant ongoing income from record sales. Most small bands seem to make more money touring. For them to have succesful tours, people need to hear their music, record labels don't help with this. Sure there are people who have made vast sums of money from the record industry, but most make very little or worse end up in debt. Its an expected value problem.

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    1. Re:Why do musicians go for recording contracts? by confusednoise · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Record companies give musicians much help -- there are so many things that are hard for an independent musician to do that a big company already has 900 lbs of existing gorilla weight to do.

      Like promotion. I can get on the phone to radio stations and maybe one by one convince them to give my music a listen. Maybe some of them will even play it on the air (once or twice). A big record company gives a push to their artists that can actually get something on the playlist.

      Or touring. Yeah, small bands can tour a lot and do all right. But what if, god forbid, they want to get *off* the road for a little while? Road life is hard - give a listen to the big established acts about the rigors of the road then imagine doing it without the fancy tour bus, without hotel rooms (sleeping on people's floors).

      And booking. Booking even a short tour (1 - 2 weeks) is hard. You need to call each club over and over to finally book the gig. A booking agent makes that so much easier.

      Bottom line is that it can be done without any of that support structure, but it's hard as hell which is why so many people are willing to sell their souls to big record labels in return for the exposure and some of the perks.

  5. Re:Story Text brought to you by BugMeNot by pseudolus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmmm... How ironic. I trust that the appropriate copyright permission has been sought for the above post. ;)

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  6. Re:Story Text brought to you by BugMeNot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure karma whoring is covered under the exceptions for fair use in copyright law.

  7. The other side of the music industry... by JavaRob · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (initial comment: many thanks for flagging the large PDF documents clearly as such!)

    We get to hear quite a lot from the "industry" side of the music business; it's nice to get a little balance from those "other" people who are also involved in some way with the music business, the actual creators.

    I'm not surprised they're split over the issue, personally -- the future of music distribution is not at all a clearcut thing, and even the artists need someone, somewhere to be paying them for their work. Naturally, there are many more solutions that will work for the artists than there are solutions that will work for the industry that has developed purely to advertise and distribute their work through very limited, specific channels...

  8. Re:Story Text brought to you by BugMeNot by fembots · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nah the publisher wouldn't mind since parent also included "Advertisement" before the 2nd paragraph.

  9. Courtney Love's point of view by rduke15 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On the subjec (partly at least) this is definitely an interesting read for a point of view the public seldom gets to hear: Courtney Love does the math, By Courtney Love

  10. Its a leveling effect by LordZardoz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suspect that over the long term, rather then having 1 megastar for every 1000 aspiring artists, you will have many different niche artists of middling fame, known to their fans though not beyond.

    Those that are currently struggling anyway really have nothing to lose from filesharing, and plenty to gain.

    But the mega star types will have an eroded fan base as the fans find music more directly in line with their personal tastes. And artists who peaked early will not be able to coast on their old glories for nearly as long. Songs that would have made them hit big will not sustain them as long as people will just buy one copy when they hear it the first time, and probably just grab copies after that. Or just rip their original to new mediums as the medium changes.

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  11. To much FUD from the RIAA MPAA etc...! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm getting tired of all this "hurting the business" stuff. I live in Iceland where we have a national statistics institute run by the government that monitors record sales, movie attendance, rentals, sales etc.

    File sharing is huge in Iceland, about 10% of the nation use the largest P2P network every month, and there are several other domestic networks and the plethora of foreign networks. P2P started to hit it big 4 years ago.

    Record sales have been up 11% each year, we hold the world record in movie attendance, movie sales up 26% since last year and so on. You should also note that the average movie ticket costs $14, rentals are $8, CD's and DVD's are $30-45.

    This is not a strange coincidence to have this burst along with the growing of P2P networks. And don't give be crap about being an island in the north-Atlantic - movies are usually screened here before the "previews" in the US. Hell Sigurrós the world renowned Icelandic band even have their own P2P network!