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Mozilla Thunderbird Reaches 1.0

An anonymous reader writes "Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 is now available for download on Mozilla's FTP server." Here is the press release announcing the release. Virtual folders and RSS integration, coupled with the recent hype surrounding Firefox, might give this sucker some serious momentum.

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  1. Pocket PC sync?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm thinking about getting a PPC, and it'd be nice to sync my mail/address book to it, but I don't want to use Outlook/OE. Anyone know of a way to make this work with Thunderbird?

  2. Re:But will it let me backup my mail store? by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's like complaining that a Linux application stores user data in the user's home directory and system-level data in /etc. That's the standard, it's how all applications are supposed to work. FireFox follows Microsoft's standards to the letter, thus allowing multiple users to have separate FireFox profiles, and allowing non-administrators to run the software. (Woe is me! If only most off-the-shelf applications adhered to that standard) And yes, you can override those settings if you want.

  3. Re:Any other choice? by MoThugz · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why must you restrict it to Open Source ones?

    If it's a matter of $$$, there are lots of good freeware email clients out there.

    If you're really someone who does things "in the spirit of libre software", you wouldn't be using Windows in the first place.

    So there are tons of them... check out freshmeat.net or nonags.com to see some.

  4. Re:Release Notes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Release notes are available here: http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/releas es/

    Which makes one wonder why slashdot feels the need to post a frontpage article everytime some product-line from Mozilla makes a new release, releases a patch, changes its name (thank god thats over), etc, etc.

    Seriously, I don't get how exactly this stuff is news. It's getting tiresome already. I wouldn't mind if it was once a year or something "Thunderbird 2.0 is now out", but it's every week or so and its brutal (Thunderbird 1.0.1b is out!).

  5. Re:Are you simply too lazy? by jxs2151 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Following this logic, in about three years there will be no discussion of anything on the Internet since the answer to every question will be to Google for it.

    This will work for a while until we reach the point where new knowledge cannot be "Googled" because the prospect for new content for Google has been sabatouged by people who reply with "Google for it" to every question.

    Get it?

  6. Re:Release Notes by Sivar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Reaching 1.0 is a big deal, because certain PHBs will not allow the installation of "beta" products.

    I agree it is kind of irritating when every dot release of every major OSS project is announced though.

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  7. Why ADD a calendar?? by Savet+Hegar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why does everyone think an e-mail program needs a calendar?

    An e-mail program doesn't need a calendar any more than a web browser does. Nor does it need one any more than a file sharing program does.

    If you want a calendar program, get a calendar program.

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    1. Re:Why ADD a calendar?? by COMON$ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Usually when you are corresponding to people it is nice to have their contact information integrated into the program that manages your appointments. A calendar is a simple program that can easily be integrated into any organizational program. Also FTP and Web have little to do with appointments. Whereas most of the appointments I make a day come from e-mails. Really nice to be able to tie that calendar entry into the thread that preempted the meeting I need to go to. I think the real question is why wouldnt you want a calendar in your e-mail program? Other than complying with occam's razor?

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    2. Re:Why ADD a calendar?? by chowells · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > Why does everyone think an e-mail program needs a calendar?

      Because people with slightly more sophisticated scheduling needs than yours find it useful, for example, to easily be able to e-mail deatails of appointments and so on to other people. The integration between an email client and calendar can help to facilitate this.

    3. Re:Why ADD a calendar?? by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So now they have to run the "bloat" web browser to get to another server to do something they should be doing with the email app that contains all their contacts.

      Yeah, there are other solutions, but the lack of calendaring in TB is keeping it from hitting a Firefox-like lovefest. It may not be an issue for you, but it is for others.

      Integrated groupware/calendar is whats needed to compete with Outlook. Period. Not everyone is a savvy php programmer with servers and an organization to control.

  8. Re:Why won't they add a calendar? by T-Ranger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The buzz word is not "email client" but "personal information manager". Of course, these are two different things. The later requires the former, but not the other way around.

    Just as Firefox is a lean, mean, browsing machine, Thunderbird should be a lean, mean, email reading machine. If you want a calendar, then get something else.

  9. Contact Extension for 1.0 is out already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    http://jpeters.no-ip.com/extensions/index.php?page =tb_cs_changelog This has been available for a while now. Google is your friend.

  10. Still missing much needed features.. by d_jedi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    like combine and decode (ie. multi-part messages),
    yEnc encoding,
    etc.

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  11. Re:T-Bird is missing "Combine and Decode" by timftbf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    News is (technically) an astonishingly bad way of distributing binaries. Please join us in the 21st century.

    For *reading* news, Thunderbird is fine.

    TTFN,
    Tim.

  12. Still not feature complete by anticypher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1.0 means they have transitioned from alpha grade early release project to a first beta release.

    Thunderbird is missing too many basic features to allow it to be rolled out to corporate users, or family members, or just about anyone not 100% geek. It still doesn't handle outgoing servers correctly. Filtering is difficult to use, can't deal with IMAP correctly, and sometimes just doesn't work at all.

    The spam filtering still needs a lot of work, there needs to be an option to white list the entire set of local (and/or ldap) address books, not just a single one. When people keep separate address books for business and personal contacts, you then have to choose which book to whitelist. There's been a bug in bugzilla for quite a while now on that one.

    LDAP incompatibilities, IMAP SSL handling, customisable UI, IPv6 support, the list goes on and on. I would have prefered if the dev team spent a few more months dealing with all the little problems that will keep this entirely out of business rollouts, and fixed the minor bugs which have lingered forever.

    Maybe with the 1.0 early beta release, the current dev team will move on, and more capable Open Source volunteers will step up and finish the job. I, like many others, were driven away from the forums and bugzilla because of hostile attitudes and incessant bickering over extremely minor points. We tried to help, but some FLOSS projects aren't as deserving as others.

    I haven't been able to convince anyone to switch over to 0.9 from outlook, or even Pine (so you know its got to suck). No major feature requests were addressed between 0.9 and 1.0, this is just a minor incremental release.

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  13. Re:Memory Footprint by soulsteal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You mention Outlook, so I assume you had all your mail stored in PST files on the hard drive. Outlook has trouble with PST files thaty get to around 1.5 GB or so. At that size, PST access gets sluggish. There's a hard-coded limit somewhere around 2 GB that, once you reach it, will corrupt your data.

    This can be avoided by making multiple PST files.

  14. Re:Still no call-out to a browser? by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sounds like you'd really be happier with the complete suite.
    That way your irc:// links will work, your mailto: links...

    For someone who depends on all the pieces with complete integration, what's wrong with just using the suite?
    (yes, I know someone will spout some B.S. about bloat. They use the Gecko base people! Odds are Mozilla will use *less* memory since the libraries are more likely to be shared while you just might have different Thunderbird/Firebird versions.

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  15. Re:Still no call-out to a browser? by {X-Frog} · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well for me it works.

    I'm using gnome, so to do that all I needed to do was to go in Application --> Desktop Preferences --> Advanced --> Preferred Applications
    And there, I set my default browser and my default mail client!

  16. Re:Release Notes by Eil · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Seriously, I don't get how exactly this stuff is news. It's getting tiresome already. I wouldn't mind if it was once a year or something "Thunderbird 2.0 is now out", but it's every week or so and its brutal (Thunderbird 1.0.1b is out!).

    Well, you could always do what the rest of us do when we come across a story on the Slashdot home page that doesn't really interest us:

    Scroll down a few lines and proceed to the next one.

    Give it a shot, you'll be amazed how well it works.