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Siemens Develops 1 gbit/sec Wireless Link

jonknee writes "Siemens has developed mobile wireless technology with transfer rates as high as 1 gigbit per second. This blows the doors off of '3G' technology, or EV-DO (the high-speed data technology used by Verizon Wireless and soon by Sprint PCS). Not all the specs are out yet (more info is expected early next year), but it uses three transmitting and four receiving antennas. With any luck the phone in your pocket will have a gigabit link by the year 2015."

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  1. Faster than 3G .. heck, its faster than 802.11G by CdBee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How can it be possible to get a cellular data service that's faster than a WiFi LAN?

    Also, if this is for real, surely this has implications for the many planned city-wide wifi grids (Wi-Max, etc) and other mobile broadband solutions, as it could make them obsolete very quickly.

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    1. Re:Faster than 3G .. heck, its faster than 802.11G by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Multiple antennas.. sounds like a variant of BLAST:

      http://www1.bell-labs.com/project/blast/

      They claim >20bps/Hz by making lemonade out of multipath's lemon.

  2. So, in 2015, ... by kclittle · · Score: 5, Funny
    my daughter can call and ask for money even faster that she can today? With full-screen video and 5.1 surround sound? Oh, thanks bunches...

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  3. This report is entirely worthless without detail by Angostura · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Without the details, it strikes me that this nice bit of hype is entirely pointless.

    Great - I 1Gig link. And the power requirements are? And the suspectability to multipath problems in built up areas are? And the size of the antenna on the phone is how big? And the patent issues are what?

    Sorry to be such a grumpy old thing, but getting RF technology to work in the lab is one thing. Getting to work in messy, interference soaked urban environments without cooking the user's head is quite another.

  4. Technology advancement by rasteri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With any luck the phone in your pocket will have a gigabit link by the year 2015.

    By which time it won't seem that amazing at all.

    1. Re:Technology advancement by Gopal.V · · Score: 4, Insightful
      >By which time it won't seem that amazing at all.

      To us , it'll still be amazing because we'll be past the 35-hump since when each invention is against the laws of nature .

      Below 16 , all inventions are taken for granted. After 16 to 35, every invention is the next big thing and by the time you're over 35 , it'll be a violation of your fundamental understanding of science.

      So kids born in 2000 see supersonic air travel as an ordinary means of travel , while my father feels there's something impossible about faster than sound travel (someday I'll say the same about Faster than light , hopefully) .

      People don't change - they are just replaced.

  5. Yeah Right by MrNonchalant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm very skeptical of the viability of this for a consumer market and I'm pretty certain I can get 3 randomly selected users to agree with me. Firstly, the large amounts of antennas would suggest this can't make it outside of a research lab. Secondly, you can't even get 54Mbps without paying thousands of dollars per month WITH WIRES. Maybe they could transmit this much between the tower with a single client (scalability anyone?) but if our current wired infrastructure has trouble managing 100 Mbps then what good will that link be?

    Anyway, my point here is that maybe you'll see a speed increase but don't expect anything in the real world faster than a wireless G setup anytime soon. It'd be damn cool though.

    1. Re:Yeah Right by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Secondly, you can't even get 54Mbps without paying thousands of dollars per month WITH WIRES.

      How much do 100GB disk space cost today? How much did they cost 10 years ago?
      How much would you have payed 10 years ago for the data rate of a current standard DSL connection?
      How much would you have payed 10 years ago for the computing power of todays entry level PCs?
      So, are you still sure that the pricing will not be about right for the consumer market in the year 2015?
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  6. very nice but... by __aahlyu4518 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "With any luck the phone in your pocket will have a gigabit link by the year 2015."

    Having a phone in your pocket may be obsolete in 2015 ;-)

  7. Re:for what by Oxygen99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rapid on demand location based services springs to mind, such as detailed maps and directions. As does accessing music files remotely from your own PC. That'd be nice. Maybe more expansive travel information such as realtime traffic or flight data. I'm sure these would become more and more useful given a large hike in bandwidth.

    As somone more intelligent than myself said, "if you build it, they will come.".

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  8. Re:for what by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Spamming, virus and worm spread, spyware, DoS attacks ... the possibilities are endless!
    SCNR

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  9. When do cellular and WLAN merge? by cale · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This article is interesting in the standard kind of wow, high bandwidth wireless kind of way. However, as wireless LAN technologies become more long distance (Wi-Max) and cellular technologies become more high bandwidth (this article), when will the two converge into a united space?
    I know there is a difference in the licensing of the spectrum, but disregarding governmental interferences, prevents wireless LAN and cellular from essentially becoming the same type of standard?

  10. Re:Thanks Zak, you made this thread Informative by ZakMcCracken · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not oversimplified to say that, in fact it's a common practice. In QAM modulation systems (Quadrature and Amplitude Modulation), "complex amplitude" (i.e. amplitude + phase) modulates a waveform with not just two values (+1 and -1) but four values (1, i, -1, -i) or more...

    The set of amplitude values is represented in the complex plane as a "constellation". At the receiving end, you have to "recover" the amplitude and the phase of the emitted signal, which is the process of synchronisation.

    In cable (coaxial) networks, where attenuation is lower than in free-range transmissions, 64-QAM or even 256-QAM (a modulations with 256 complex values, an 16x16 square in the complex plane) is commonly used.

    Power and range do limit the effectiveness of modulations. In GPRS/EDGE packet radio, for example, QAM schemes are varied as a function of radio conditions to avoid using too ambitious of a modulation for what the channel can support.