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China Bans Game Recognizing Taiwan Independence

OhioJoe writes "MSNBC is reporting that China has banned a soccer game that depicts Taiwan as independent. Violators are threatened with $1200 fines. From the article: "The game, 'Soccer Manager 2005', contained content that harmed China's sovereignty and territorial integrity and violated Chinese law, the Xinhua news agency reported on Tuesday."

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  1. War on China by oexeo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (Disclaimer: This is not a troll, I really think it's on-topic, and worth discussion)

    Please remind why America is not at war with China? My knowledge on this subject is limited, but my checklist (based on the precedent set by the "justifications" for the war on Iraq) suggests that they should be:

    (X) Totalitarian government
    (X) Autocracy government
    (X) Possesses Weapons of Mass Destruction
    (X) No human rights
    (X) Unstable, Irresponsible leadership
    (X) Inhumane treatment of its people
    (X) Government oppression and censorship

    If these are the valid reasons, could someone please explain why America is not at war with China?

  2. Different approach by kahei · · Score: 5, Insightful


    There is a lot of ignorance here about the difference between the Chinese and Western ways of defining, and thus changing, reality.

    If a Western government banned a game or a particular statement, it would be a move against that particular game or statement. When the Chinese government does it, it's one tiny part of the general full-time business of defining the version of reality they want to be percieved (and which is percieved) as the canonical Chinese one.

    China is a large country, containing large areas which were not China until quite recently and still have major anti-Chinese native populations, and large areas whose interests conflict with each other and with Beijing's interests. The Chinese machine -- 'leadership' is the wrong word because it is a culture-wide effort -- has therefore always worked hard to promote a unified pro-Chinese vision in which the answer to the questions 'Should we not be part of China? Can China do bad?' is an automatic, instinctive 'no', so automatic that the question cannot really be asked at all.

    If you want to get a feel for this, try reading XinHua in parallel with your other news sources. At first you will note differences here and there but over time you will come to see two different, parallel world histories going on; the XinHua one and the 'real' one.

    But the true effect is only achieved when the whole dialectic of discussion at all levels, not just of government-controlled news sources, assumes the artificial reality, and this effect has been achieved brilliantly -- although lately they have been resorting to extreme nationalism to keep it up. The abuse of foreign soccer teams, the constant rehearsing of Japanese, British and French crimes in schools, the scholarly books on how Tibet and Goguryeo (google it, I don't know the right romanization though) and this and that bit of India have been stolen away by evil foreign interests but have been returned to China by the force of truth and sincerity -- it's all part of one absolutely brilliant concerted effort of which the banning of this game is a tiny, tiny, tiny, part.

    I think the creation of not merely a new Chinese history but a whole Chinese reality, basically in 5 short decades, is probably the greatest cultural achievement of the previous century.

    Or not.

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  3. sigh by Scrameustache · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a Communist government (modified, granted, but still not democratic)

    Would you PLEASE, for the love of all that is good and holy, learn the freakin' difference between "communist" and "totalitarian".

    A country can be communist AND totalitarian, but that doesn't make those two things interchangeable.

    The worst part of the whole thing is that China is a capitalist's dream, cheap labor, who have no chance to redress grievances. No wonder we can't compete.
    To those who say that economic capitalism leads to democracy, we'll just have to wait and see. I'm not holding my breath.


    See, China is moving away from communism, but not from totalitarianism. You've noticed that capitalism doesn't magically bring about the end of totalitarian states: Please adjust your vocabulary accordingly.

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