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Introducing The Heron Programming Language

Posted by timothy on from the you-must-be-a-loon dept.

Christopher Diggins writes "The Heron programming language, is a new general-purpose multi-paradigm programming language in the style of C++ which is starting to make waves. The popular Polish software development magazine Software 2.0 is featuring an article on Heron, in its first English version of the magazine slated to appear in February 2005. A preview of the Heron article is available."

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  1. Willful Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Diggins makes absurd statements like:
    • "As a programmer for over 20 years, I have never been concerned with what a 'type system' is."
    • "Every programming language I am familiar with has the same basic concept: values and expressions may or may not have a type."
    • "The concept of "term" is irrelevant to the implementation, design and use of programming languages."

    See Lambda The Ultimate.

    I'm not sure how Heron is going to emerge from the mess of C++ish languages that includes Java (and variants like HyperJ and AspectJ), C#, the also new (but much more active) Scala, the well-grounded Nice, and the nearly complete Aldor.

    And there's no way I'm downloading and installing Kylix just to try it out.
  2. To Quote Steve Jobs... by smug_lisp_weenie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (in reference to the Next Cube)

    "In order for people to adopt a new computing platform you can't give them something that is 30% better- You really have to give them something that is 200% better and that is what we failed to see at Next."

    I commend the designer of the Heron language for trying to simplify some of the complexity of C/C++ (Just like the D language and Eiffel tried) and some persons may benefit from such a tool. But I fail to see how a language with some minor improvements in contract and aspect-oriented programming support is really offering more than 10-20% improvement in terms of design over vanilla C++ - Not that anyone says it has to, but to truly make waves in the programming world I think a larger advance would really be necessary...

    Also, I am skeptical of the practicality of new languages that don't support garbage collection- Garbage collection is just such a huge win in terms of productivity in many programmers' eyes, not to mention its ability to prevent viruses/exploits from buffer overflows. I coudn't imagine adopting a new language that doesn't at least have this one critical feature, even if you carry a tiny performance overhead because of it...

    Still, it's always nice to see people working on new ideas in language design!

    --Conrad Barski

  3. As a C++ programmer... by Tim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let me just say that the last thing you want is to emulate is the style of C++!

    Perhaps next you'll tell me it has the speed of Python and the type-safety of perl....

    --
    Let's try not to let fact interfere with our speculation here, OK?
  4. Gosh. by Kickasso · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Who, in this day an age, deliberately designs a non-hygienic macro system? Don't they teach Scheme in CS101 courses?

    Note: call it a macro system, or call it a type safe generic metaprogramming facility, or whatever. I don't care, it's still not hygienic. The relevant wording is here.

    Gentle Slashdotter, if you are ever to design a programming language, please make sure its scope rules (whether run-time or compile-time) are sane. Thank you.