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ACS Sues Google Over Use of 'Scholar'

headisdead writes "John Batelle is noting that 'The American Chemical Society yesterday filed a complaint against Google, claiming the new Google Scholar infringes on its own product, called SciFinder Scholar.' Fairly typical subscription vs. free dispute, but with intellectual property issues thrown in for good measure."

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  1. Language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Step 1: Copywrite the dictionary
    Step 2: ???
    Step 3: Profit!

    1. Re:Language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Step 0: Learn to spell copyright

    2. Re:Language by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Funny
      seems people can't tell the diffrence between "SciFinder Scholar" and "google Scholar", caus you know SciFinder sounds sooo much like google, they both have a single e in them!!
      Next up:
      • Dell Computer vs Gateway Computer
      • House of Pancakes vs. House of Carpets (their products sound AND taste the same)
      • Tom Cruise vs Tom Hanks
      • Tom Hanks vs Tom Arnold
      • Shannon Doherty vs Midland Doherty
      • Chemical Bank vs the ACS over the use of the word Chemical
      • Ford Motor Co vs General Motors
      • General Motors vs General Foods
      • General Foods vs General Tire
      • General Tire vs Goodyear Tire
      • Goodyear Tire vs BF Goodrich Tire
      • The Goodyear Blimp vs Roseanne Barr
      • McDonalds vs anyone singing "Old McDonald Had a Farm"
      • Ford suing anyone with an "F" in their stock symbol (Ford's stock symbol is "F")
      • SCO suing anyone with a stock symbol with an S, or a C, or an O, or an X (Hence Daimler-Chrysler - DCX)
      • ABC suing NBC - 2 letters the same out of 3
      • NBC suing CBS - 2 letters the same out of 3
      • CBS suing PBS - 2 letters the same out of 3
      • SCO suing CBS - 2 letters the same out of 3
      Anyone want to add more?
    3. Re:Language by Crusty+Cracker · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think he was trying to avoid copyright issues.

  2. Madness! by hak+hak · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This is absolute madness. Since when is the word "scholar" in any way reserved for the ACS? If you use a generic word in your product, don't be complain when others use the same word, otherwise you are just plain naive.

    The same could be said of a well-known operating system, of course...

  3. Isn't Scholar a generic word? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article indicates the basis of the suit is that Google Scholar infringe upon SciFinder Scholar trademark. Granted that Google Scholar appears to do more or less what SciFinder Scholar do (minus the fee.)

    But I doubt anyone would confuse the word Google and SciFinder. If their entire suit hinge on the word Scholar, I think ACS is facing an uphill battle.

  4. The Real Problem by kmactane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real problem here is that you can trademark a word in common use, like "scholar". Since the ACS did exactly that, roughly 6 years ago, they have no choice but to go after Google (or else have their own trademark claims painfully diluted, or maybe just nullified).

    I don't much like what's happening here, but if I were Google, I'd be strongly considering just changing the name of my service. (IANAL, but it really looks like Google will have an uphill battle here.)

  5. Re:Scholar = a common word, an not even the full n by The+Snowman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't believe that McDonalds have trademarked the phrase "I'm lovin' it" (plus a dozen over translations of the phrase in other languages)... that is just so wrong.

    It sounds stupid and trivial, but remember the frame of reference for trademarks. If I start my own fast food restaurant chain and use "I'm lovin' it" as a slogan, I think it is fair for McDonald's to sue me (and win) for trademark infringement. My use of the slogan would easily cause confusion with customers. Maybe they think my restaurant is sanctioned or supported by McDonald's when it is not.

    If I started an amusement park and used that slogan, McDonald's would have a tough time getting me to stop unless I was also infringing other trademarks (e.g. the entrance to the park was a pair of golden arches).

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  6. Re:HEY, THAT'S MY WORD by SEE · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sorry, Word Thief® is a registered trademark of the American Plagarists Guild. Unauthorized use is, in an acknowledged irony, forbidden.

    If you wish to avoid lawsuits, you may join the Guild. Just send us a photocopied Newspaper Guild/Communications Workers of America membership form with a check made out to cash. (We couldn't be bothered to come up with our own form, and over 90% of our members have professional access to the NG/CWA form anyway . . . )

  7. Re:Curious name clash by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Interesting
    As you point out, people just call it SciFinder. So, if google had called it Google SciFinder, ... maybe. But even then, it's not enough to cause confusion in anyone's mind (at least anyone who's likely to use the product).

    The article says "over 1000 institutions", which is nowhere near the majority of institutions world-wide. Not even a significant amount.

    And, as I pointed out, it's not aimed at the same market (subscription to a select group vs non-subscription to the general public).

    Nor does it limit itself to the subset that the ACS limits itself to. Again, no "trading on the value of the name,. etc"

    SciFinder "might" enjoy some protection, since it's not a generic word. "Scholar" does not. No more than General Motors can keep anyone else from using the word "Motor" in their product name.

    The ACS is pimping their service with this lawsuit - hope that Google wins with prejudice.

  8. SciFinder by Bester · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a user of SciFinder Scholar I really don't think that ACS should be trying to draw a comparison between their product and google's scholar.

    SciFinder is terrible. The UI is non-consistent with the standard windows suite, cf to google's wonderful UI. SciFinder is also ugly as a dog (a pug at that).
    It's slow as a dog, cf to google's speed.
    Tell it to save to results and all you get is unprintable ascii characters.
    Performing a search is painful task with poor boolean support.

    On the whole scifinder is poor product that I hope is supersceded with google's scholar.

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  9. No way is the ACS harmed by siskbc · · Score: 4, Insightful
    1. The ACS is going to lose big time in terms of paid subscriptions

    No way. I'm a chemist, a member of ACS, I've used scifinder scholar, and I've used google scholar. They're not the same thing, they shouldn't be confused, and furthermore google scholar doesn't provide fulltext access to ACS journals. So there is no effect upon subscriptions. Nor is there any real competition - the products don't even really serve the same purpose. If anyone should be scared of google scholar, it's ISI, makers of Web of Science/Knowldedge, the worst search of all time.

    The ACS is just being childish, and as a member, I'm embarassed.

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