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Illegal File Trading Draws Two P2P Raids In Europe

had3l writes "Police in Finland raided the operation of a popular Bit Torrent site and arrested 34 people, 30 of which were volunteers who helped moderate the site. This comes right after the MPAA reported that it would start suing tracker servers." An anonymous reader points to a story (currently at the top of RespectP2P.org's homepage) about the raid yesterday morning of Dutch eDonkey sites Releases4u and Shareconnector.

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  1. Re:What a haul... by mordors9 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, we are back to the assumption that Corporate America likes to make that every single song, movie or piece of software would have been legally purchased if they had not been illegally downloaded. Obviously that is false, but it makes the "losses sufferred" sound really impressive.

  2. TV Torrents by superid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The gathering storm against bittorrent users has already started to worry me. I have been using suprnova to find torrents of TV shows only, no movies. I'm essentially time shifting content that I could almost as easily have "tivo"-ed myself.

    A recent example is that a friend of mine missed last week's episode of her favorite show, ER. I got a torrent the next day and burned her a DVD.

    I wish that type of usage was considered "fair use" but it's not.

  3. The Wild West by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of people have said that the ongoing copyright crackdown represents the end of the sort of "Wild West" nature that the internet had at first.

    I disagree.

    This represents the wild west nature finally becoming complete.

    Previously the internet was a place of lawlessness.

    Now it's still a place of lawlessness, but on top of this we have little tyrannies, where those rare people with lawyers can make anything they want happen just by issuing threats and governments can take things out at will without having to worry about pesky things like jurisdiction, right or courts. Like the wild west, where on top of the chaos it was overlaid that if whatever self-appointed lawman felt like it you would get hanged or shot for no reason at all.

    Perhaps this comes down to how you define the word "laws"; after all, there have been many times throughout justice where "law" meant nothing but the imposed will on a subjugated populace of a bunch of armed thugs. But I think laws imply justice. I see none of this coming to the internet, only the raw exercise of naked power.

  4. Re:Why spend days downloading movies by Anita+Coney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I don't want to be on a monthly payment plan"

    I have no problem paying a monthly payment plan as long as I'm getting movies that I want. 66 cents per movie is cheap whether it is paid monthly or not.

    "Netflix's commercials annoy me."

    All commercials annoy me. But I still buy products regardless.

    "Downloading movies is free. 66 cents each still costs more than downloading them."

    But you're downloading crap. I'm getting the actual movie and can rip it myself, with all the menus, audio tracks, and bonus material intact. You never know what you're getting when you've wasted the time to download.

    "They come in a format that is all ready to be played on your computer (if you so desire) instead of having to wait to convert the 4GB to that format yourself."

    You don't consider the time spent downloading it waiting?! It' takes me about ten minutes to rip the DVD to my hard drive. Can you really download an entire movie in ten minutes?!

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  5. Re:I have said it before and I'll say it again... by m50d · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It is not anyone's right to break the law, no matter how silly the law is.

    Yeah. And Nelson Mandela was wrong to disobey the apartheid laws.

    A bad law is a bad thing, and civil disobedience is one way to protest it.

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  6. I download TV shows by sgant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I do it every week. Yes, I know it's illegal. Yes I know I probably won't be able to in the future with the draconian laws coming down.

    I have a special circumstance though. I live out in the middle of no where. I don't get broadcast TV except on one station...I do on the other hand get high-speed DSL.

    Now I COULD get Comcast cable, but since I only watch 4 tv shows a week, I'm not going to be paying 50 bucks a month (yes, 50 bucks here even for just plain basic). Not to mention Comcast likes to raise their rates at the drop of a hat.

    Dish services are also out because the number of trees they can't get a good signal, I've tried. SO that leaves me with downloading these TV shows.

    But what the TV networks are missing out on is that THEY should offer torrents of their shows right from their web pages. If they throw in the regular commercials how is this different than just watching it over the airwaves? I would download them in a heartbeat and gladly watch their commercials if they did this. Why are so uptight about this? They should be like "hell, download all you wish and trade them with your friends...as long as the commercials are still there we're still making our money...and we could also target advertising better for people that download and that could generate even more money blah blah blah..."

    Movies though, I don't download at all. Never have, never will.

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  7. Re:I have said it before and I'll say it again... by Quattro+Vezina · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is not anyone's right to break the law, no matter how silly the law is.

    No. If a law is Immoral, it is everyone's Moral Responsibility to break that law.

    And I bet you would just love intellectual property laws if you had any intellectual property.

    Wow. This just goes to show that you have no concept of how anyone can have Morals.

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  8. Re:Right... by greggman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wrong. The day copyright is abolished is the day I don't have to release any source for anything I make from GPLed sources. While you will be able to copy the binary if I release it (and assuming you can break whatever DRM I use) I will not be required to give out the source.

    That's not the case today. Because of copyright law I am required to give out the source