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Boeing Eyes In-Flight Live TV on Your Laptop

cobravenum2 writes "Boeing is planning to add live television to its Connexion by Boeing service during 2005, The television programs will be delivered across the Connexion network, which uses satellites to provide high-speed data connections between aircraft in-flight and ground stations linked to the Internet. The service entered commercial use earlier this year and provides a 5 megabits per second shared downstream and 1 mbps shared upstream connection to suitably equipped aircraft. You'll be able to view up to four channels of live TV over your laptop."

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  1. Great by mordors9 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I can have some loudmouth on one side talking on his cell phone and some woman watching oprah on the other. Life can't get much better.

  2. Re:Airlines become profitable again by svallarian · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not sure if I want to mod this +1 funny or +1 (eww-hate to be sitting next to THAT guy on the plane)

    --
    I patented screwing your mom. But it got revoked for "prior art."
  3. What about Over-Ocean Flights? by wasted · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The television programs will be delivered across the Connexion network, which uses satellites to provide high-speed data connections between aircraft in-flight and ground stations linked to the Internet.

    So those long TransPacific flights will only have sporadic TV coverage? Those are the ones that could use it the most. Or will 747 aircraft start following the equivalent of ETOPS routes to ensure internet coverage?

    * ETOPS Routes - Routes flown by twin engine aircraft on extended overwater flights to ensure that they can reach land within a certain amount of time in the event of an engine failure.

    1. Re:What about Over-Ocean Flights? by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 4, Informative
      So those long TransPacific flights will only have sporadic TV coverage?
      No. As what you quoted clearly says a satellite connects the plane to the ground station.
      Plane <--> Satellite <--> Ground station
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      Boffoonery - downloadable Comedy Benefit for Bletchley Park
  4. MPAA sues Boeing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    So how long before "viewed on Laptop" becomes "recorded on laptop" ?

    Man, this is going to be real headache for MPAA, having to refer 5 different country copyright laws, if the plane flies over different countries(Look at the Singapore Airline Routes) during the entire unauthorized recording process.

    On the other hand anything that creates havoc for MPAA... this cannot be a bad thing, right ?

  5. Only 5 Mb/s? by tongariro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Streaming a channel using high compression video and audio codec at CIF resolution will get the data rate down to about 500 Kb/s. Assuming that every bit is used for streaming, that will be 10 channels maximum to be shared between those among the 300 passengers who has the laptop/PDA/phone.

    I can see it now, air rage over bandwidth hogs. :-)

  6. 2 Things by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1) Does Boeing Run Linux?

    2) Ummm... don't we already have those nice LCD screens on the back of seats (or folded to the side) on most 747s already? How is this an innovation in anyway? Wouldn't u rather just use the already supplied screen, as opposed to bring out your laptop and stuff? -1 Redundant, n/t

  7. TV? by bfields · · Score: 4, Funny
    The service entered commercial use earlier this year and provides a 5 megabits per second shared downstream and 1 mbps shared upstream connection to suitably equipped aircraft. You'll be able to view up to four channels of live TV over your laptop.

    5 megabits downstream and 1mbps upstream, and we get.... TV?

    Great.

    --Bruce Fields

  8. I fail to find this that cool by drgath159 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Boeing hasn't announced the names of the channels that will be available but they'll be international news and financial news channels, he says."

    Booooooring. If you have a laptop, why the hell would you watch StockMarketTV? Watch a DVD or hell... play some scorched earth. I love my PDA when I take flights cause I just load a few DVD rips on my SD card and have enough juice and content to watch for about 8 hours.

    Can airlines ever think of anything other than cheesy novelty features. Does anyone actually use the phones built into the seat? No. Use that high speed connection to give us internet!

  9. Re:I can see it now.... by krbvroc1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    This sounds like a good idea, until passengers end up watching live TV coverage of the next 9/11 and then start hunting in the plane they are riding in for assumed "terrorists" causing a riot in-flight.
    Of course this is violation of the Terms of Service so you are protected:

    # # Interference with Flight Crew: Do not Disclose any Content that would intimidate a flight crew member or flight attendant aboard an aircraft, interfere with the performance of the duties of the flight crew member or flight attendant or lessen the ability of the flight crew member or flight attendant to perform those duties. #

    Interference with Airplane Operations: Do not Disclose any Content, knowing the information to be false, about an alleged attempt being made or to be made to hijack, bomb or interfere with the operations of an aircraft.
    http://www.connexionbyboeing.com/index.cfm?p=cbb.t ermsofuse&l=en.US&ec=

  10. SONG already has this - and more... by datastalker · · Score: 4, Informative

    Song has a partnership with Dish Network, and provides 24 channels of TV to the screen in the headrest in front of you. They also provide trivia, music (broadcast and create your own playlist (for a fee)), as well as movies (for a fee), and games (for a fee). The fees for the pay-per stuff are reasonable, but there's enough free (trivia and 24 channels) stuff to keep you busy the entire flight.

  11. Why Bother? JetBlue has TV. by bjbest · · Score: 4, Informative

    JetBlue advertises that they offer 36 channels of DirecTV. Screen at every seat. For free. Right now. No need to bring your own equipment.

  12. Re:I can see it now.... by dswensen · · Score: 3, Funny

    This sounds like a good idea, until passengers end up watching live TV coverage of the next 9/11 and then start hunting in the plane they are riding in for assumed "terrorists" causing a riot in-flight.

    Oh, we won't need something as serious as all that to get passengers seeking frantic in-flight vengeance. A simple screening of Kangaroo Jack ought to do the trick.

  13. Internet access. by DustyShadow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd much rather have internet access on my laptop while I fly instead of 4 crappy tv channels.

  14. Not to mention the Airlines pricing this service.. by green+pizza · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most of the large airlines in the USA have a really difficult time dealing with onboard services and prices. Several of the biggies started charging for their poor quality meals. Pretty much every USA airline has a very poor excuse for first class (especially when compared to foreign airlines). Customer service is more than just a few listed items on some cutesy poster by the ticket counter.

    So I'm wondering how these same airlines are going to implement and charge for this new service. Just because Boeing is offering it, doesn't mean that every airline is going to automatically buy and install these systems and not charge the passengers!

    If American Airlines can't figure out how to serve a *large* dish of ice cream in first class, then I don't see how they're going to find the value in onboard streaming data and video.

  15. Worse yet: everyone in coach USING their laptops! by green+pizza · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh great, now everyone's going to pull out their laptops while en route!

    When I fly in economy/coach class, I invariably spend at least one leg of my flight sitting beside somone who insists on using his 15+ inch notebook computer! Now, even if the seat in front of him is in it's fully upright position, there still isn't quite enough room to open the lid to a comfortable 110-degree angle. And because of the compact nature of coach class, the front (trackpad) edge of the notebook is only a few inches away from his chest... so there's not enough room for his arms, forcing him to jut out his elbows a good 8 inches in each direction so he can comfortably use the keyboard and trackpad.

    PLEASE PEOPLE! Use your PDA in economy class. If you must use a notebook, get a 12" or smaller model. It's not just uncomfortable for you, it's uncomfortable for anyone sitting beside you.

  16. Re:Uhoh? I can see the rental charges now by wasted · · Score: 3, Informative

    What is the current rate for headphone rental on airlines?

    American sells you a headset for $5, and encourages you to reuse it on your next flight. It was $2 last month, and $1 in March. Their seats have the same adapter as most personal stereos, and they allow you to bring your own.

  17. I don't need my stinkin tv by Dano+Watt · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why would I need to watch TV on my laptop when it's 80 gig drive holds hours of porn?