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The Ten Worst Products of the Year

WaZiX writes "Not sure what you want to buy for christmas? Well me neither, but PCMag has an interesting article on what they consider to be the 10 worst products of the year, so at least you know what not to buy. Helpful article that picked out products from different categories such as PDA's, Notebooks and MP3 players."

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  1. Re:eMac by TheRedHorse · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd also point out you can get an 80 GB drive with the emac if you wish, and a DVD burner is also available, their review of the eMac makes it seem that these options aren't available.

  2. the list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Digital Cameras: Concord 5062AF
    PDA: iPAQ
    Phone: Samsung D415
    Desktop PC: eMac
    Notebook PC: VoodooPC Envy m:380
    Multifunction Printer: MFP Laser Printer 1600n
    MP3 Players: Mojo 1
    HDTV: ADS Upconverter
    Camcorder: Fisher's FVD-C1
    Wireless: WF717-APR router

    1. Re:the list by sarahemm · · Score: 3, Informative

      The iPAQ rz1715 to be specific, not the entire line.

  3. Re:eMac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is a bit odd. I just looked at Dell prices (of course I might have missed systems, do correct me if I'm wrong). Dells are 40GB drives until you get to $899 systems. Nor do they contain DVD burners( or even CD burners) until you hit above the eMac price. Nor do they have even ATI or nvidia graphics, but onboard intel stuff. Doesn't look much different to me.

    "Don't buy an eMac cos it sucks at X, Y and Z. Buy a dell instead, they also suck at X, Y and Z"

  4. Re:Interesting Thought... by wishlish · · Score: 5, Informative

    Given that one of their "Best Fall Software Downloads" was riddled with spyware (as I found out the hard way!), I'm all for this. Any major magazine recommending vendors of malware will never get my attention again.

  5. Re:eMac by bhima · · Score: 4, Informative
    The eMac is the only device on that list I've had contact with. My Mum and little sister have an eMac & iMac respectivly. Neither of them play games but my Nieces & Nephews do and they seem pretty OK with both systems. Neither of them are even close to filling up the hard drive. Both went to a computer shop on their own to compare prices and had the sales guy tell them that the $499 loss leader PC was worse than useless and that they needed to spend $999.

    Also I have a Dual G5 PowerMac with a total of 1.3 Terabytes of digital photos which I don't have a problem moving about with GigE or Firewire. Hasn't this guy ever heard of Firewire, USB and Ethernet?

    I have to wonder how real is the rest of the list?

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  6. I'm in Denmark, you insensitive clod.. by erlando · · Score: 3, Informative
    We open our gifts on the evening of Dec 24th..

    ;o)

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  7. Re:Disagree with at least one by pdiaz · · Score: 2, Informative

    It takes a minute or so to warm up, but it is a laser, that is to be expected.

    The HP 1300, which is an entry-level laser printer (PS), warms up in 8 seconds. 1 minute way more than is expected for modern laser printers!.

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  8. Re:eMac by aldoman · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are probably looking at the wrong line of Dells. Dells website is pretty poor unless you know what you are doing and you'll soon find you can build the exact same machine with the same specs for radically different prices just by going on different paths on the website.

    Look at the 4200 I think. They are the cheapest, and sure, they have onboard video but the Radeon 9200 is shit anyway. And you can add whatever AGP graphics card, something I'd take over a built in 9200 card.

  9. Missing: Bantam BA50 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Missing from list: the Bantam BA50 mp3 player. The buttons are cheap and poorly labelled, the MP3's play with a loud hiss. Worst of all, the thing looks like the torso of the Lost in Space movie robot. I think they recycled these from unsold movie tie-in toys. If this trend continues, look for thumb-drives built into unsold "Battlefield Earth" Terl action figures. Oh, almost forgot. It looks embarassingly bad. Don't want to be seen in public with it!

  10. Re:eMac by BenjyD · · Score: 5, Informative

    So where is this "provide more value" you are talking about?

    It's called OS X.

  11. Re:how come? by Ubergrendle · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is easy... because the auto magazines are too dependant upon advertising revenue from these companies -- invariably some of the worst cars come from manufacturers that advertise the most.

    If you want to get honest car reviews, I'd recommend Edmondston's Lemon Aid Car Guide...100% independent, uses public access to information through safety councils, etc. Its Canadian based, but should be very applicable to all North American-available automobiles.

    You'll find this same experience with most stereo magazines, and also to a great extend with video game and photography enthusiast publications.

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  12. Re:Tech Credentials by Otter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Please note that the original read "...output quality that redefines GIGO (Good In, Garbage Out)...". Not the acme of technical humor (or the grammatical construction thereof), but it seems to have sailed over your head.

  13. Re:how come? by rhild · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Car Talk guys (from NPR) have the Worst Cars of the Millenium as voted on by their listeners.

    It's funny and worth a read.

  14. Re:eMac + emacs = yay by fracai · · Score: 2, Informative

    all true

    I think the fink install is more up to date than the currently installed default though.

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  15. Re:worse pressy by FluffyPanda · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, I bought an ADSL router from eBuyer without knowing what brand it was going to be, based soley on the good reviews it had there and the price tag.

    Turned out to be an Origo (never heard of them) and a fantastic piece of kit that trounces the office US Robotics hardware doing the same job.

    Don't immediately assume that brand = quality. There are some good names in the article.

  16. Re:Already Know that. by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 2, Informative

    You say that the eMac was made "primarily" for educational use, but you might not know that it was originally made exclusively for educational use. It was released in April 2002 and was only available to education customers. It proved so popular that Apple made it available to everybody in June.

    Apple has a history of doing this kind of thing. There are Mac models out there that you've probably never even heard of because they were only sold to schools. Like the "Power Macintosh G3 All-In-One" for instance.

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  17. Re:eMac by jawtheshark · · Score: 3, Informative
    I don't think it is an unbreakable fort, just as I know that OpenBSD, Linux, Solaris, whatever isn't unbreakable. OS X does have automatic updates, and they work very fine.

    However, I can surf with Safari without getting drive-by-downloads, or whatnot. It is pretty much secure out of the box. Besides, there is not a single service active on a newly installed OS X. Windows XP SP2 has a firewall to protect its services now, but currently all OEMS ship with XP SP1.

    Tell your friend not to install all that stuff that gives him malware.

    Well, there was spyware, but no program that traditionally includes spyware (Like Kazaa). I could enumerate the software that was installed on his machine, and apart from Yahoo Messenger everything seems to have been preinstalled. All problems that he had were caused by using IE.

    I think you are being a bit obtuse with your view on Macs. My whole point is that a computer neophyte can buy a Mac and keep it running without being exposed to too much problems, and you can't with a OEM PC.
    Up until last weekend I didn't know that he had a PC! How could I have educated him? So, the computer neophyte must be educated before he buys a computer... Hey, that would make him a non-neophyte. Funny how it works, eh?

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  18. Re:eMac by Laebshade · · Score: 2, Informative
    World of Warcraft plays on Mac OSX. I'd say that's one of "this fall's hottest games" (since it came out in Nov.).
    What are the game's system requirements?
    [...]
    Mac® System OS X 10.3.5 OS:

    * 933 MHz or higher G4 or G5 processor
    * 512 MB RAM or higher; DDR RAM recommended
    * ATI or NVIDIA video hardware with 32 MB VRAM or more
    * 4 GB or more of available hard drive space
    * MacOS X 10.3.5 or newer
    * 56k or higher modem with an Internet connection
  19. Re:Pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    No, they say buy a Dell because the eMac is slow, has a small hard drive and is expensive for what you get.

  20. eMac.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    This rant seems bit unfair for me.

    We use bunch 1GHz eMacs EDU (without optical drive but with 512 MB RAM) for video editing (Final Cut) and basic audio editing (Garageband).

    All what i can say- this machine rocks! It's cheap, its fully supported (A/V editing in cheap hardware, yuk), its fast. Having 2 FW jacks (working jacks, if you want use camcorders and DV decks this matters) is enough for anything you can imagine.

    And about 40GB drive: 5 min ~ 1 GB DV video. This is lots of minutes, you know.

    Offcourse, YMMV

  21. Re:eMac by jlouderb · · Score: 2, Informative

    In retrospect, I probably should have said "buy an iMac"

    Or a Penguin Revolution 2200.

    jim louderback