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Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Reviewed

eobanb writes "I finally wrote a somewhat in-depth review of Terra Soft's Yellow Dog Linux 4.0. It's basically a PowerPC port of Fedora Core 2. The good? Pretty modern software, and setup is a snap. The bad? RPM sucks as always, and there are a few too many things that are broken out of the box. Linux PPC; it's a niche-within-a-niche, as I heard one Slashdot comment call it, but it may well be worthwhile if you're annoyed by x86 hardware."

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  1. Please fix /.! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The 503s are making me crazy!

  2. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Is this where I do the first post thing...

  3. i was talking to MS customer support when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    i just got hung up on, and that was approximatly the same time on friday. i was trying to get an activation code for win xp when i was disconnected from them all together. i waited a while thinking that like all good cutomer support they would call me right back because i was hung up on, but waited half an hour and called them to try to talk to the guy i was dealing with, and they told me that they were having serious internal problems. im not sure how it works, but i think MS might use some kind of internal VOIP system because there was a delay in speech with th guy i was talking to as well, but hotmail and their tech support both went down around the same time as i was informed of "major internal problems." so something big happened. yfp

  4. um.. great? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    "Shakespeare can put all England on stage in Henry IV, I am confident that we can put on the whole of Middle Earth..."

    Oy veh...Note that putting the story of Henry IV on stage took Shakespeare two very long plays-- Henry IV parts one and two together are over seven hours, uncut. Even then, the scope of the plays is much smaller than the War of the Ring. Yes, the historical backdrop of Henry IV is a series of wars and rebellions that cover most of England as well as Brittany, but the realy story is much smaller. It's about the (contested) king, his son Hal, and a few other key court figures suh as Hotspur and Falstaff. The real plot is the search for honor by these characters, NOT the wars and the fate of the kingdom. Anyway, to cover the full scope of the war/political story, you have to include two more plays, Richard II and Henry V, which would bring the stage running time to over twelve hours.

    So Shakespeare did NOT put "all England" on stage in Henry IV...he was much too smart to try that. Pity the West End producers can't learn from the Bard.
    jmc

  5. How long until... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ...they're putting them into condoms to build up a database for "virtual sex"? et

  6. yeah.. anyone else.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Anyone else horrified by the thought of this? i mean the first thing i thought of was the jack to my headphones, how every pair maybe lasts 2 weeks before either channel starts going out, or gets huge static.

    just happily walking down the street someday with your new artificial leg, and all of a sudden the "nerves" give out and you take a face dive.. or in the case of the static, you could have the physical equivalent to tourettes; standing in line at the bank when all of a sudden your arm goes and punches the guy in front of you in the back of the head, and then yourself in the face a few times.. gives a new meaning to frayed nerves..

    most metals just dont last long with a large amount of torsion. (for lack of a better word) vf

    1. Re:yeah.. anyone else.. by kesuki · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      The thing is the solution to the stress fatigue issue is well know. Do you remember 'corded' phones? they had a destinct 'spiraling coil' shape. Well, by spirialing metal in a coil you exponentially reduce the amount of stress caused by repeated flexing, as the metal itself is not forced to bend more than a fraction of a degree at a time. Instead of the metal 'bending' the coils of metal move closer or farther apart from each other.
      BTW you can get all the parts you need from say a radio shack to 'Build your own' pro grade headphone cord using a simple coiled telephone cord*, a broken pair of headphones, and a
      1/8 jack

      Remember, headphones are made throw away cheap so you'll buy more headphones... If they actually made them to last 25-30 years why would you ever buy a new pair of headphones?

      *= these are specifically meant for corded telephones and I can't remember if they have 2, 3, or 4 leads... if they have 2 leads, then you'd need to either look for a non-standard 3 or 4 lead cable elsewhere, or use a two 2-lead cables.

  7. ISPs vs. FBI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Several years ago the company I work for was the target of a denial of service attack. We contacted the FBI and, after an hour of deliberation, in not so many words they said there really wasn't much they could do. Our ISP was actually much more helpful, both legally and technically, than the FBI. Basically, as I understood the situation, they won't lift a finger unless you can prove $5,000 in damage was caused. The damages were easy to account for, but even then it seemed like they had very little power. I know most internet crimes involve violation of FCC regulations, making them federal issues, but does the FBI have any more power now than they did 3 years ago on this particular issue? If so, is the Patriot Act the source of additional power? kzo

  8. "If he committed no crime in his home country" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    But if you stood across the border in Minnesota and shot the Canadian, you've committed the crime in Canada(?) and would be extradited. zq

  9. I really miss.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I think that you're looking back with rose-tinted glasses. I had a Camaro in the 70s, and compared to today's cars it was a total piece of garbage. It had dangerous handling, it broke down constantly, it was shoddily constructed, and chunks were falling off of it when it was only 8 years old.

    Maybe a few cars from back then claimed more horsepower than what you can get today. (I kind of doubt it with cars like the Dodge Viper on the market). Keep in mind that horsepower numbers were inflated back then, and the drivetrains and suspensions were not capable of utilizing the horsepower that they had.

    If you read any car magazine, there are plenty of aftermarket shops that do modify today's cars, and they manage to keep them legal as well. sg

  10. It's a Kuiper object... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    The question becomes even more convolved once we move outside the solar system, since we now know of a wide diversity of systems, of which our own solar system is only one particular instance. (And perhaps not even typical at that.) We know that there are objects extending all the way down from massive stars (around 100 Msun) to hydrogen-burning stars like our sun to brown dwarfs to planets. Clearly any definition of a planet must apply not only to our solar system, but also to these extrasolar systems. Some of these systems are much like our own (for instance, they may contain a brown dwarf orbiting a star, or a planet orbiting a star), and some (including a few systems of low enough mass to qualify as a planet) are "free-floaters" -- just sitting out there by themselves in space.

    I think ultimately the question is whether there is a single continuous "initial mass function" of isolated objects or not. The best idea as to how stars acquire their initial mass is that turbulence in the interstellar medium, which exists on all scales, establishes a power-law distribution of initial masses. Every once in a while, you get a very strong shock which passes by inside a giant molecular cloud and forces the collapse of a large region which then goes on to form a massive star. But more typically, you form stars more like our sun. And just as rare as massive collapses are very small mass ones which go on to form isolated brown dwarfs and free-floating planets. If this model holds up to be true, then we are all mincing words in our definitions of isolated systems, since they are all manifestations of the same universal formation process.

    However, to avoid the difficult question of formation mechanisms, an IAU working group of some of the most respected people in the field established a working definition [ciw.edu] to define by fiat what it means to be a brown dwarf, and a planet. Extrasolar "planets" are those objects orbiting a star which are beneath the deteurium-burning limit -- regardless of how they are formed. "Brown dwarfs" are defined to be those which burn deuterium but not lithium, and "sub-brown dwarfs" (NOT free-floating planets!) are defined to be those isolated objects which do not burn deuterium. Even the working group itself admitted that this definition was not satisfying to a single member of the group, and so it is likely it will be replaced at a later time with something more physically-motivated. The "planet/planetismal/KBO" distinction was pushed back to our own solar system, since it will be some time before anyone sees anything that small in another system.

    Also of interest is the following link, which gives a history of previous claims for additional planetary members of our solar system : SEDS [arizona.edu].

    wrg

  11. The Nazgul Chorus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    (Courtesy of Daily Telegraph)
    I met him down in Mordor, he gave me the eye -
    Da do Sauron-ron, da do Sauron,
    And then he nearly slayed me, what a wicked guy!
    Da do Sauron-ron, da do Sauron. qg

  12. Problem trying to explain to clients by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Figures. Here I am at a client's house fixing his computer so the cable modem works again, and I'm trying to show him how good Proxomitron works with getting rid of all the Hotmail surrounding ads, and I can't even connect. He didn't believe me when I said that it was probably Hotmail being down....

    Perhaps if it was some routine maintenance on Microsoft's part, they could forewarn people about it? It affects a lot of people's lives, whether free or not. fkb

  13. Beat The Rush and see it early...for free? by 4_Scythe · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Is it just me, or is it possible to see the "subscriber only" stories by accessing them with RSS feeds?

  14. Re:Or.... by eobanb · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    That's like saying "Macs suck, I used an LCII and it was total crap

    No, it's NOT like saying that. An LCII is from the early 90s. This Dell was from about eight months ago. It also cost only a few hundred less than my Powerbook.

    The only PC laptops that resemble my Powerbook are Sony Vaios, especially ones that don't have internal optical drives, and yet they still cost a fortune.

    --

    Take off every sig. For great justice.

  15. This is news??? Who the fuck cares! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    An outage like this is not caused by a server failure but a misconfiguration. If it were bad hardware it would have been replaced, but that wouldn't have effected the whole cluster now would it? It also wouldn't have effected multiple services.

    Nope this problem is a central database problem, probably they tried to normalize the passport database, screw the pooch and had to roll everything back which is why it took so long.

    Or maybe they changed a permission and spend the whole day figuring out which one did it. zkd