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China Lights Pure IPv6 Network

plui writes "An all IPv6 backbone was launched this weekend in China. 'CERNET2 is the biggest next-generation Internet network in operation in the world and connects 25 universities in 20 cities. The speed in the backbone network reaches 2.5 to 10 gigabits per second and connects the universities at a speed of 1 to 10 gigabits per second.' Here is a link to the story in the English version of China Daily, the online news site in People's Republic of China."

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  1. IPv6 is good. Speed is good. What about ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful


    content filtering?

    Let us remember China filters websites, emails and SMS. Internet is all about freedom, don't forget it.

    1. Re:IPv6 is good. Speed is good. What about ... by rokzy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      internet is about freedom? what the fuck bullshit are you talking?

      did "the owner of the internet" have a press release I missed on "what it's all about"?

      as far as I can tell it's primarily about information and communication, and more recently secondary aims like commerce.

      should you have the "freedom" the post information or conduct communications that would be illegal in another medium? no, of course not.

      or am I taking your "think of the childen" whining too seriously? was I just supposed to think about freedom, wave a tear from my eye and salute the American flag?

    2. Re:IPv6 is good. Speed is good. What about ... by verus+vorago · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The vast majority of information and communication is from/between people who are not "the press".

      "freedom of speech" doesn't have to be total for useful information and communication to take place.
      This is a good thing because it doesn't exist anywhere that I am aware of.

  2. Re:What's the point? by thryllkill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The point is outlined in this line of the slashdot plug, "'CERNET2 is the biggest next-generation Internet network in operation in the world..."

    That alone makes it newsworthy. But of course, you're right. We should not discuss news items from countries whose values systems are not reflections of our own. I hate all that pesky "world news" stuff anyways. It might broaden my horizons or something, and we wouldn't want that.

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  3. Will the asian networks become isolated? by riflemann · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With all of the advances going on in Asia with regards to IPv6, is this going to result in a large split in the internet as more sites appear on possibly ipv6-only servers?

    Most of Europe and the US is seriously falling behind with IPv6, and there's still very little incentive to improve this - chicken and egg indeed. My employer is a large telecom with 1 million ADSL subscribers, but has no concrete plans to roll out IPv6 still, as they see no pressing business need for it. But I fear this will isolate us from the huge economy in asia.

    There will soon be a time where there will be a lot if great content on servers that are only IPv6 capable, and these may slowly develop into separate 'internets'. What can be done for the rest of the world (ie, Europe and the US) to catch up on this? We may end up being left behind as asia powers ahead with technology.

    But then again, Asia is where most of the newer tech goodies come from, so hopefully we will start seeing more everyday appliances supporting IPv6 natively, which could be the boost we need for full v6 support in the infrastructure.

    1. Re:Will the asian networks become isolated? by jbb999 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oops forgot to login for my comment. You could always vote with your credit card and change to an ISP which does support ipv6. They do exist. The ISP I use supports ipv6 (it's in the UK though so no use to most people here I suppose). The point is that ISPs supporting ipv6 do exist and is a unique selling point for those ISPs. It's of limited use at the moment but I suspect soon enough it will be become more use and those few isps and their customers who do support it now will have a great headstart,

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  5. That is a set back by bjoeg · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Well, I'm still learning on IPv4 but following previous /. story then IPv6 is a set back for China since they already adapted IPv9 to their network.

  6. Re:What's the point? by 2Bits · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, you can live in your closed world if that's what you want. And oh, don't buy anything made in China, including most garments you can find in the US, computers, cell phones, electronics, shoes, ... Yeah, there are other countries which make them too, but as far I know, their political systems are not the same as the american one either....

    Well, I don't like to respond to AC, but I'm just tired of this attitude here. Sure, China has a ton of problems (I'm Chinese and I live in China, so I should know), but that's not an excuse that we can't all participate in building a better world. The chinese leaders now are very pragmatic, they still have their little problems, but that's getting better everyday. Do we need a bloody revo to change all this overnight? I'll take the current model of gradual change any day.

    What I'm saying is, if you don't care about other countries, fine, just buy everything made in USA. But just get over it, people are moving with their pace.

  7. Re:I suddenly have this urge to move to China... by curious.corn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok fine, as long as you don't become a problem for the system you're (more or less) left alone... it's called jus murmurandi. Any non liberal political system is very lax in applying such repression so not to alienate the majority of the subdued masses; which are pretty condescending as long as their primary needs are satisfied. But don't worry, the moment you become a threat, you're quite certain there's some obscure, anal retentive prohibition, you'll get fucked over with. It's like having a dog on the leash, as long as it's not pulling you have no reason to strangle the poor sap (unless you're a loony bastard, like Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc...)

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  8. 75% eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Liar. There's less than 100 million internet users in China out of a population of over one billion. Literacy is around 90%; people in the countryside where most of the people live probably have never even heard of the internet. 75%? Take your propaganda elsewhere...

  9. Re:Why not us?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    China is not a Communist country. It is a tool of the slaveowning capitalists.

  10. Re:Get a clue by curious.corn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course not... but I'm sick of this "bad apple" tripe. While it's not representative of the US's population as a whole (not YOU or your dear nanny and her apple pie), the US Govt. has, throughout the last century thoroughly fucked up anyone's life it pleased. Wikipaedia or any random googling will route you to South America's unlucky fate as US neighbour and playground (banana republic, Chile, Allende, Argentina, Contra, Colombia... hell even Cuba) The US quite simply murdered or substantially helped psycotic dictators more than willing to do so, anyone that got in their business' way. And went on ranting away at Communist threat; which was nothing but exasperated farmers, shit poor bastards that just wished to improve their living standards to humane levels and shrug some robber barons off their back. Jeez, you could have helped them out like you did with Europe; tilt the balance towards socialdemocratic friendly systems but no, you had to go the Rummy way and get the swats in... No, I'm not US phobic; actually I sympathise with 49% you you folks ;-)

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  11. Re:Why not us?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Your comment is moderately trollish (as I'm sure my response will appear), but I'll bite. China is able to do it because they have a centralized controlling party. In America, things are pulling in all directions -- there is no single vision to get things done.

    Examples:
    Fuel -- China is going nuclear and is planning on being a major player in the energy-provider game in the near future.
    Space -- China has an active space program, not the joke that the American space industry has become.
    True, sometimes the ethics of the programs are a little off, but China is willing to take risks, especially if the payoffs warrant it. America just does not seem willing to take the risks.

  12. More proof the US has jumped the shark by aurispector · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If there was any doubt about it, this is more proof the US (and the rest of the western world for that matter)is losing the edge in technology. China and India continue to develop their industrial bases and accumulate the critical masses of professional expertise needed for a self sustaining tech economy.

    With cheap labor and a friendly legal and regulatory environment, not to mention a huge domestic market, these countries are taking the tech lead.

    We, on the other hand, sit back and cluck our tongues as every nitwit who gets a hangnail is allowed to sue the evil profit sucking corporations who obviously conspire to kill us all for profit.

    I for one welcome our new asian technology masters.

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  13. Re:I suddenly have this urge to move to China... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Falun Gong and all religions should be discouraged. Superstition is unworthy of modern man.

  14. Re:I hope they have enough content! by Chemisor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > what good is a high speed network if you are unable to speak your mind?

    Where can you speak your mind? Certainly not in the US.

  15. Re:I hope they have enough content! by TheWickedKingJeremy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Where can you speak your mind? Certainly not in the US.

    Come now, that is a bit much. The U.S. has tons of problems, no doubt, but I wouldn't say that censorship is top of the list. You can speak your mind all you like... there certainly are areas of debate, such as the recent FCC clampdowns, but overall I don't think there is any truly evil censorship going on.

    The way I see it, our problem (the current administration, the current direction and priorities of our country, etc) is something entirely else. Bush was voted in, after all... you want to find out why this happened, you need to look into why allegedly moral people are voting for plainly immoral things. But lets not pretend that all the great things about this country are completely dead. :)

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