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Latest Version of iPodLinux Reviewed
Demolition writes "The latest release of the iPod-Linux Installer has been reviewed on Accelerate Your Mac!, a popular Mac performance/modification site. As mentioned in previous Slashdot articles, the iPodLinux Project is an open source venture devoted to porting Linux to Apple's iPod. In a nutshell, the reviewer finds that the iPodLinux Project has progressed a long way from its early proof-of-concept days."
Not at full speed with the current software. It needs optimisation, or at least better buffering.
-H
Anyone have more specific information on this?
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: www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/
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well the iPod already has a address/phone book, a todo list and a calendar. Not to mention games and a notes section that can be used for USENET newsgroups or e-books - there are already programs to get various web items onto it, like one that gets google news and outputs it onto the iPod when you sync it. But before I say any more I should probably go RTFA.
I want an iPod with a 512x384 display, emulating a Mac Plus (except with much more RAM.)
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
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the iPos already does everything it needs to
No it doesn't. I was about to buy one, but then I found out it doesn't have Ogg Vorbis support. A quarter of my music is in Ogg. I bought a Rio Karma instead, and I wasn't let down by the purchase.
The iPod is definitely fast enough to handle ogg vorbis. The problem is just that the iPod has two different processors, which the tremor decoder wasn't designed for (or anything else except the original Apple firmware). Linux on iPod currently doesn't use the second processor except for some very basic stuff.
If you are one in a million, then there are six thousand people who are just like you.
Since every time a media player is mentioned on /., and this is an iPod running Linux, and 95% of my collection is in ogg, etc. I've karma whore by posting this link to the currently /.ed iPod Linux Wiki FAQ. In short, here's the answer, and there is no reason, from either the site or TFA to change it (TFA says nothing about ogg.) No mailing list or forums available.
Note: Linux != ogg. If your iPod runs linux, that does not mean everything you can run in mplayer will suddenly work on your iPod as some seem to be suggesting.
Short version (from the Wiki):
Is there an OGG player?
The Tremor (http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/) player is running at about 80% real-time.
I am, and always will be, an idiot. Karma: Coma (mostly effected by
"Perhaps it would be wiser to adopt something Open Source such as OpenBSD instead; it's a text-only environment, so the lack of graphical support would be a minor problem at best..."
When did OpenBSD not have 'graphical support'? I'm writing this from OpenBSD with X.org.
Am I the only one seeing the IPOD going the way of POG in a few years? Still this has some interesting implications.
Yes.
In an effort to be more informative than "there are already programs to get various web items onto it, like one that gets google news and outputs it onto the iPod when you sync it", I did some quick googling..
Googleget - Grabs Google News and syncs it onto your iPod. Looks great, can't wait to try it.
Many other iPod tools written in .NET for Windows (haven't found out if these are open-source, if so I'd love to try to port some of them to mono/gtk) available at iPodSoft -- I tried out a few of these and they look great.
And then there's the big list over a iPodLounge...
d. Taylor Singletary,
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I believe this new /. catchphrase started from this article where some idiot blogger claimed that Firefox extensions aren't digitally signed, which prompted him to write a thesis why IE is a better choice because of it.
No company that shoots to make a profit is going to be 100% open source.
I'm guessing you're not familiar with a little company called Red Hat, for one?
The short version of the state of iPodLinux: It does work, and shows a lot of potential, but it's not quite useful as the sole OS for your iPod yet.
:)
A lot of development has been focused on the eye candy. Games, interface, that sort of thing.
What is really needed is some kernel and hardware hacker type guys who can get stuff working underneath all the interface and eye candy so as to make it actually useful for everyday use. Case in point: The iPod has a dual processor sort of thing. In the Apple firmware, the secondary processor is more or less devoted to audio decoding. That's not yet working on the iPodLinux kernel, instead the second processor is heavily underused and thus it's basically incapable of playing back high bitrate MP3s or AACs or things along those lines. Sorting that out would be a big step.
Looks and such are easy to program (hard to get right, but easy to actually do). Getting the thing to live up to its maximum potential is the hard part.
Help is gladly accepted, BTW.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
what apple handed back to them was uselessly hobbled with patents. i don't blame the konq people for not touching it with a 10 meter pole.
Rio Karma.. plays ogg, flac, and had other gimmickery you might be interested in.
This has got to be a troll, since you're cheering about Microsoft's open source contributions, but I'll bite.
:)
First, Apple cannot possibly contribute to all the open source software projects that ship with their OS. Neither does Sun, or Red Hat, or IBM, or anyone else. It's simply not possible. Everyone takes more than they give. It's like asking a Linux user to contribute to every open source project they use. They can't. But that's part of the beauty of open source: there is a huge amount of high quality code out there with healthy developer communities that a software vendor (and end user) can put to good use without having to vet every single line of code themselves. And when all of those vendors each give back to a few of the projects they use, it feeds back into the health of the entire open source community. So, every company can't help every project, but every project can help every company (and user). That's a good thing, the way I see it.
And, Apple does give back. Particularly to GCC, FreeBSD userland, KHTML, X.org, Postfix, and others. And they always publish source for any modifications according to the appropriate license. I'm too lazy to go look up specifics for all of those, but there's a quick writeup regarding KHTML at www.kdedevelopers.org. Examples of the others shouldn't be too hard to find. But, you're not likely to see much front-page press about it. "Vendor X gives some code back to project Y" won't capture people's attention like "Vendor X stole code from project Y and is violating the license". You can scan the Slashdot headlines for proof of that.
I cannot personally think of any mainstream Apple software that Apple has made OSS.
Well, there is Quicktime Streaming Server. That should count for something. There's also OpenPlay, and Rendezvous. Anyway, there's a list on Apple's site, go take a look. It's not Apple's fault if none of the projects they have put out there are anything that you want to use.
but what has Apple really given of their own creation?
QSS, as just mentioned. Anyway, you can't make any money by just giving everything away. Ask Red Hat. Anyway, every vendor has to keep certain things for themselves to differentiate their product or there would be no reason to buy their specific product. That holds true for any vendor using open source code, be it Sun, IBM, SGI, Apple, or anyone else.
What about Quartz, Aqua, iTMS, iTunes, "Fairplay", Sorensen?
Quartz: I highly suspect there may be issues with IP from the display technology vendors. ATI and NVidia are stingy with their IP, which is why there are no real open source drivers for their display cards for any OS.
Aqua: Apple's UI is their main point of product differentiation, besides the custom hardware. Giving away Aqua would be like giving the hardware away.
iTunes/iTMS/Fairplay: They can't release the source to these because it would compromise the authentication/DRM scheme that allows them to sell RIAA music in the first place. But even so, who cares? DRM sucks anyway and I won't buy DRM encumbered music from anyone for any cost. And, if you want to use iTunes for library management, there's Crossover iTunes.
Sorenson: Not Apple's IP to open source. Go talk to Sorenson.
Free yourself. Everything else will follow.
Errr, ahhh. I believe that OS X is built on the Mach Microkernel. Yes, some of the underpinnings are FreeBSD, but the kernel was developed by Avi Tevanian... who came from NeXT and Jobs brought to Apple.
BTW, I am a shareholder in Apple.
It's mandatory to wash your hands before returning to the land of Dairy Queen.
Yes, what you are thinking of is the Belkin iPod Media Reader: back up digital images to your iPod, and take them with you on the road. Your iPod's abundant storage handles thousands of digital photos and frees up your camera's disk space so you can take more pictures. Simply connect the Belkin Media Reader to your iPod, and insert any of the six supported media types. Using software support that's already built into your iPod (with software version 2.1 or later), transfer the pictures quickly via FireWire technology and you're ready to start shooting again. When you get home, simply connect your iPod to your computer to retrieve the images.
Doesn't support iPod Mini (only 4GB anyway.)