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Inventor of Optical Storage Gets Little Reward

Thu Anon Coward writes "This poor guy invented optical storage (CDs, DVDs) and never made a dime. Another case of an idea before its time and cheating a man of his due. To quote the article, 'Consumers will spend billions this holiday season on CDs, DVDs and machines to record and play the ubiquitous silver discs. But the inventor of the underlying technology won't make a cent. Today, Russell does consulting from a lab in the basement of his Bellevue home to keep in the game and supplement a modest pension from Battelle.'"

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  1. Remember kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Strong IP protections are necessary because if it weren't for monetary benfits ensured to corporate research labs, we wouldn't benefit from the inventions they create!

    Right? ....Right?

  2. and if he would have patented it by hsmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and sold the rights, /. would curse him

  3. Re:Ripped off by GGardner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How much "royalties" does the coder who implemented 1-click get, do you think?

  4. Good, bad, ugly... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, so in THIS case patents are BAD because someone else is making bank on this guys IP, but could have been GOOD if this guy had protected his IP, but than he and his patent would be BAD because he would have been making bank on his IP...

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  5. Self-Gratification by pegasustonans · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He does get the self-gratification of having created something revolutionary. Not that that pays the bills, of course. He should be rewarded more than he has been, but isn't it also good that optical storage development has moved quicker without some of the restrictions it might have faced had the patents been effective forever?
    I'm not saying that patents are bad, but I also think it's good that they have limits. And I still think this guy should get more recognition.

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  6. It goes to show... by jd · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Patents and IP don't protect inventors, who have neither money nor time to go messing around with patents. (The more time you spend with bits of paper, the less time you've got to spend with actually doing something.)


    What it proves is that patents protect the fist to patent, even if there's "prior art". (If "prior art" counted, then the patents should never have been awarded, as this guy had working systems prior to the "invention" by the corporations who held the patents.)


    The ones with time and money are generally not the ones working their asses off doing the inventing. They can either sponge off their R&D workforce, or they can sponge off other inventors. The latter is cheaper, as they don't even have to pay wages, then.


    The research for patents is expensive and time-consuming. If your next meal depends on coming up with another idea and selling it, you probably aren't going to have either time or money to spend.


    Let's face it. The system is broken. Seriously broken. I don't know how best it could be fixed, but something needs to be done before it destroys the entire inventing subculture altogether.

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  7. Slashdot swings both ways by Control+Group · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You know, we complain when a company exerts market influence via patents...then we complain when a patent isn't enforced...I sense a logical inconsistency, here.

    Let me put on my "surprised" face.

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    1. Re:Slashdot swings both ways by Moofie · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny you mention the Wright brothers.

      Patents most certainly DID work for them. They were some of the most litigious patent holders of the early part of this century.

      Some idiot judge decided that they should be awarded a patent on the notion of powered flight, rather than a patent on their mechanism for lateral stability. The Wrights proceeded to use that ridiculously over-broad patent to run other American companies (read: inventors) out of the airplane business.

      For many years, the only aircraft innovations were coming out of Europe. The Wrights were content to rest on their laurels (and their unstable and unreliable design), and attack anybody who tried to improve on the airplane as a patent infringer.

      Fortunately, the Feds finally put a stop to that when they apprehended the military utility of powered flight, and saw how the state of the art was progressing overseas.

      Ironically, one of the Wright's principal US competitors (Glenn Curtiss) a) built the Wrights' first motor, b) invented the layout of the airplane as we commonly know it today, and c) wound up owning the Wright aircraft company.

      So, in this case, it was a happy ending. The better innovator (Curtiss) won out in the end, and the Wrights died bitter.

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  8. Sad, understandable by Bronz · · Score: 5, Insightful


    First -- yes, these stories are sad. But what about the flip-side? Here's a creative soul who was gainfully employed to pursue his own imagination. He was paid to be creative. The problem was his creativity wasn't bound by the context of viability ... by what is currently applicable. The patents were sold cheaply because there was no immediate use for them.

    This sounds harsh, but the way I see it he got paid to dream. Monetary compensation is only one way of keeping score and from my perspective this man is richer than most.

    Which begs the question -- did he lose salary for every failed invention? He probably had a lot of hair-brained flops in his tenure ... and I don't see mention on how those things that didn't develop should be compensated by himself just as any success is immediately rewarded.

  9. Re:Moron by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just fucking patent everything you invent and only after that decide what you're going to do with it.

    I agree. In fact everyone should just pay and go to law school for a years so that they can easily patent things themselves, and defend their rights. Also, everyone should inherit millions so they can afford to pay a team of high priced lawyers to fight on their behalf all the time. This idiot did not only not go to law school, but he did not inherit any money. I mean what was this idiot doing trying to invent something new? That is just stupid. Everyone knows it is easier to just patent something obvious then use your lawyers to intimidate people who can't afford to pay legal fees to fight you.

    Does anyone care to point out any times the patent system has helped to foster innovation or protected the little guy in the last 10 years? If you did not read the article maybe you missed the part of the article where they state the patent was owned by the lab where he worked, and then transferred to a startup after the lab could not afford to fight the big companies in court. The startup eventually won in court and did make money, but not before they laid-off the inventor of the tech they were making money on. Here's an idea that might be useful, lets make patents only available to people, not companies. That way they can protect inventors, and not be used to suck money out of people who actually innovate and make things. Then we could finally get those flying cars they have been showing in movies about the future for the last hundred years.

  10. Re:Ripped off by lottameez · · Score: 5, Informative

    Probably none. Most employment agreements give the employer IP rights to things employees are paid to develop.

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  11. Edison? He didnt invent the lightbulb. by rufusdufus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thomas Edison is analgous to the head of the sony division that used Russel's patent at Sony; he did not invent the lightbulb.

    When you look close at the history of technology, as an American you might find out how much hyperbole there is in the idea that "Amercans invented almost everything." The truth is more like we claimed credit for everything.

  12. And a nice guy too. by Darth+Muffin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And heck a heck of a nice guy and interesting to talk to also. I met him a few years ago at a friend's holday party--he's their landlord and neighbor. We had a mini geek-fest in the corner comparing our ipaqs.
    When I heard (from someone else in the room) that he invented the CD, I was just in awe. Very cool.
    He's into many other things also. He may not be rich like he deserves to be, but I can say he's living comfortably (he owns at least 2 properties that I know of) and is happy.

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  13. Re:Ripped off by quarkscat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This story perfectly illustrates one of the
    differences in patent law between the good
    old USA and Germany.

    In the USA, the employee's invention & patent
    is owned by the employer.

    In Germany, the employee's invention & patent
    is owned by the employee.

    Most US corporations require that employees
    sign away all their rights to any innovation,
    regardless of whether it was developed on the
    job (or even job-related) or not. Even without
    relinquishing such rights, the employee has
    little legal recourse in American courts. In
    effect, the employer owns the employee.

    Considering the direction that corporate pensions
    and benefits are headed in the USA, which is:
    none (now 401K), and shrinking (eg. medical), the
    imbalance in favor of the corporation is getting
    worse. When the increase in L-1 and H1-B visas,
    and the RIFs in favor of offshore outsourcing are
    taken into account, the future of innovation in
    the USA looks bleak. Finally, the whole issue
    of software patents and the ridiculous position
    adopted by the USPTO, it is apparent that the
    USA's corporations are trading in their long term
    financial and industry growth for potential
    short term profits.