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Think Secret Predicts Sub-$500 Headless Mac

eadint writes "I have just read an article posted on Think Secret that discusses a confirmed $499 Apple box sans monitor. According to the article, this has been under development for almost one year and may be available towards the end of 2005Q1. The system is rumored to be based on a G4 with 256MB of RAM , 40-80GB HD with a combo drive (sorry, no SuperDrive). Although Apple has stated in the past that they have no motivation to compete in the sub-$600 PC market, this system was based on polls showing that more people would buy it after initial exposure to the iPod." "Confirmed" seems a strong word, but I hope this is more than wishful thinking.

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  1. Finally - make it an impulse purchase by Brento · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've never bought an Apple computer because the prices are too high to be an impulse purchase. At $500, though, I would pick one up along with a $50 keyboard/monitor switch and start playing around with it.

    Plus, at $500, geeks can afford to buy it and find out if it's easy to get their work done on it. The easier it is to switch my day-to-day work over gradually to an Apple, the more likely I'd be to do it. I'm sure I'll have a couple/few apps that I have to run on Windows, but if you put them both on my desk and let me toy with both, I bet I'd be more likely to run my MS-only stuff on a virtual machine.

    Could I get a $500 used Mac with a CRT monitor? Sure, but who wants that big bulky thing around? Instead, give me something I can use with a USB KVM switch, and then I can explore it on my own pace.

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    1. Re:Finally - make it an impulse purchase by Nexum · · Score: 5, Informative

      Tiger does NOT need a 64 meg graphics card. I am running it on this PowerBook with a 32MB card, and I would not be suprised at all to have it run on something even weaker.

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    2. Re:Finally - make it an impulse purchase by peragrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I made part of the switch at the end of thanksgiving. other than the transprancy I don't notice much of the cool effects anymore.

      I still have a Dull running Windows for games, but have pulled all my document, data, movie, and audio files to the Powerbook.

      OS X has the most of the features of *nix yet it has very few of the down falls(drivers, okay that's all I can think of).

      I bought a lightweight portable computer. It's now very common to see me next to the fire place listening to music and surfing the web for hours at a time. The 4-5 hours of battery life is great. I am getting roughly 4 hours of wireless web surfing. slightly less if I start playing videos. Of course I have also downloaded AND burned a knoppix disc wirelessly and still had two hours to go web surfing with. If Burning a CD isn't power intensive I don't know what else could drain the system.

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    3. Re:Finally - make it an impulse purchase by ePhil_One · · Score: 5, Insightful
      wait for this lower cost workstation

      This thing ain't no workstation. Most likely its a "Media Center" with PC capabilities, a place to centralize all your iPod songs, load your iPod, browse the web, edit a document in Office:Mac 2004, sync your cell phone via Bluetooth, etc. So few people really need the heavy lifting of a 3+ Ghz computer.

      Heck, the lack of constant spyware invasions are enough to make me think I'd be ahead of the game replacing a few relatives PC's. Those 3-hour spyware removal missions get annoying every three months

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    4. Re:Finally - make it an impulse purchase by INeededALogin · · Score: 5, Informative

      "spring-loaded folders" - I think those are annoying.
      Turn them off.

      "the application install process (or lack of)" - (lack of) a central location to add/remove software from your computer.
      Drag the application to the Trash can. Done. True, you have support libraries in the /Library folder that may be orphaned, but this happens in every OS, and is probably better to leave behind(they don't take up that much space

      "the dock (yes I like it)" - I don't. You can't see your application titles unless you mouse over them. What if you have 6+ Word docs open?
      Use Expose after you get to the document(I can't believe expose wasn't even talked about yet, or Cmd+` to cycle through you apps

      If Mac's had a way to turn off the Scale/Genie effects entirely, I wouldn't mind at all.
      It can be turned of very simply. Apple Logo->Dock->Dock Preferences

      The only way to close a Mac app is to Control-Click it on the dock, and wait for a menu to quit the application
      Apple users abuse the hell out of hotkeys. cmd+w to close a window, cmd+q to quit the application. if you get really happy, cmd+tab+q+tab+q etc... to close all the applications.

      I just need a computer to get my work done, IM my friends, and maybe read some original and witty jokes
      You sound like Apple's target audience:-D

  2. Great! by Zo0ok · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have asked for such a Mac for years... since they discontinued the cube...

    I think it'd be a great decision... lets see how much it canablizes on Power Macs though.

  3. Hell yes they would sell! by jacobcaz · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I would buy one to put on my desk at work to prove they would interact with our network. Everyone gives me an odd stare when I recommend they pickup a Mac laptop for their personal work.

    Face it, geeks know the power of OSX but Apple hasn't done a great job of selling why a Mac today is differnet from the Macs of yesteryear. People either have ancidotal stories of how Macs don't play nice with Windows (which was never really true) or they have experiences with Mac-snobs or anti-Mac-snobs that have put them off even giving it a chance.

    I recommended we look at replacing some of our desktop machines with eMacs or iMacs as a trial last year and senior management looked at me like I was nuts. "But...But...it's not a Dell! And it Doesn't-Run-Windows(tm)! How will anyone get any work done?"

    It's harder to convince senior management to put out $20,000 for a ten box trial, but $5000 is much more palatable

    So go Apple! Build your boxes; they'll sell like hotcakes (especially if you make a $700 headless mac / iPod bundle).

  4. Apple needs to rethink specifications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the price difference between 40 and 80gb hdds is small. The price difference between 256mb and 512mb of RAM is not large.

    The average Joe's perception of difference between a computer with 40gb of hdd & 256mb of RAM vs one with 80gb of hdd and 512mb of RAM as huge as a "3 megapixel camera" vs a "5 megapixel camera".

    Apple needs to understand that underspeccing their computers to make a few dollars more per unit or to have the price slightly lower, actually costs them more than it makes. It furthermore makes people take Apple less seriously - they keep trying to push their out-of-date computers, *and* they're underspeccing them as if they're old stock or they're trying to cut every cent off of costs.

    I seem to remember Commodore having a similar over-priced highend + underspecced low-end strategy.

    1. Re:Apple needs to rethink specifications by atrizzah · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But at a sub-$500 price point, every dollar matters. If these things do sell like hotcakes, Apple needs to squeeze out the biggest margin they possibly can in order to make any money on it. This computer isn't going to be meant for the type of person who reads specs before they buy, it's for the people who just want to try out the new "Internet thingy" they've been hearing about these days. Apple wants people like you to shell out a bit more cash for your computer. I think that in this case, "underspeccing" is the way to go, since they know plenty of people will buy it regardless of specs because they just want to try Apple (if they're high end users) or own any computer at all (if they're low end users).

      A great example, have you heard of the low end Palm Zire series? Absurdly underspecced--they even decreased the number of hardware buttons--but they became Palm's best selling unit for over a year. And it's simply because the type of people who bought it weren't power users and didn't demand competitive specs, they just wanted any Palm. For many, it was perfectly adequate, and for others, it whetted their apetite for a more powerful unit (more dollars for Palm)

  5. Here They Come by Alexander · · Score: 5, Funny

    "But, I can build an AMD 87GHZ box overclocked with a gajillion megs of video ram for $1.23 Canadian, why would I buy a Mac?"

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  6. Not for US Market by Lysander+Luddite · · Score: 5, Informative

    Last summer I read from a south asian government press release that Apple would be working with said government to build a cheap system for use only in that market. I firmly believe this rumored, stripped down machine is for that market.

    Here's the press release

  7. Re:If it has PCI-slots I might consider it. by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There's no chance of PCI slots. Even the iMacs don't have PCI slots. This device is rumoured to be only an inch and a bit thick. Other than the Powermac range, and specifics like Airport cards, Apple expansion is via USB peripherals.

    But if you want to use it for office work or internet surfing, it's hard to see why you'd want or need PCI anyway.

  8. BRING IT ON!!! by amichalo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't want to restate the obvious so I will restate what may not be so obvious:
    A 1" thick headless unit fits nicely in my A/V cabinet.

    Yeah, you heard me - network connection - audio line out (or atleast USB/Firewire for 3rd party)

    This is the new Media server for my den.

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  9. Re:reality check by gobbo · · Score: 5, Informative
    I regularly have interns with their new XP-laden laptops puffing their lips out in a combination of awe and despair when they realize that the dual-450MHz G4 I have them working on is

    • 4 years old
    • running nonstop (over 5 mos. this time)
    • running no antivirus software and on a university network
    • doing everything their new WinTel machines can, only smoothly (OK I've disabled chat services so they'll get some work done; likewise it is game-free)
    • stock, but the heart of a productive video editing set-up (despite a wimpy video card)
    • only slightly less snappy than the shiny new G5 in the next rack over, which is rated at over 5 times the MHz (well, until they rip or render).
    Panther (10.3) actually sped up the 350MHz iBook w/ 384MB of RAM that I use for field work; even on that hand-crank antique OS X is eminently usable, and wows onlookers (although often it's Quicksilver's functionality that's really causing the eyepoppiing).

    OS X on a cheap G4 will convert people. The only key issues for me are stock RAM configurations and build quality.

  10. Mac Crack by EaterOfDog · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just want to warn everyone that OS X is addictive. That $500 box will give way to a dual G5 tower very soon. They are just giving you the first hit cheep.

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