Bayesian Tail
flok writes "We all know anti-spam-software using Bayesian filtering. The results with these are amazingly good. So that made me thinking: why not create a tool which monitors logfiles and determines using a Bayesian filter what events to display and what not? That's why I created btail. Btail is just that: it monitors a logfile and filters it with a Bayesian filter. The results are above my own expectations!"
Do you have any examples of what type of stuff it learns to filter and what it learns to show? The btail site is kind of lacking of what it outputs versus what it filters
Did that story end a bit quick ?
Heck, I wanna know what the results are goddamnit. What made the thing so great.
The environment I work in is highly E-mail centric and I work on many projects. I would like to see some sort of Bayesian filtering employed to sort all of the e-mails I get into folders based on projects.
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Bayesian filtering could be used for lots of things outside of spam. One example could possibly be Wikis, determining spam from ham modifications (well, yes, it is spam here). I've had some other ideas that involve Bayesian, but they've escaped me for the moment.
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True. But if the Star Trek error log resembled real life then it might look more like:
/var/log/apache/mysite.com-error.log
/home/aoteoroa/www/pages/info.php on line 1
/home/aoteoroa/www/pages/info-over.gif
01:37 [error] Overheat in plasma injector #1.
01:37 [warning] Cargo bay door 2 is open.
01:38 [warning] Cargo bay door 2 is open.
01:38 [warning] Oxegen sensor on deck 2 not responding.
01:39 [warning] Cargo bay door 2 is open.
01:40 [warning] Cargo bay door 2 is open.
01:41 [warning] Oxegen sensor on deck 2 not responding.
01:56 [error] Plasma injector #1 offline, switching to #2 backup.
In other words real interesting errors in the logs can get hidden by a bunch of trivial log entries.
I use tail all the time when developing php applications. PHP logs errors to the apache log file so I type:
tail -f
To track changes to the apache logs as I test the php pages.
But the truth of the matter is that I am only interested in php errors, and not broken links, and missing images. So if I can train btail to pay attention to php errors like:
[Wed Dec 29 10:58:04 2004] [error] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function: badFunction() in
and ignore file not found errors like:
[Wed Dec 29 11:16:22 2004] [error] [client 192.168.0.2] File does not exist:
it would make my job just a little bit easier.
I thought this app was learning everything was in the log, and then only showed the new out-of-the-ordinary log entries that didn't quite fit in with the rest. This would allow to filter out freak events from the log and show them to the user. How different would such an app be from the proposed btail? And how confident would you be about such an unsupervised log analyzer?
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"I've had some other ideas that involve Bayesian, but they've escaped me for the moment."
Recovering the Slashdot lost since 2000, by eliminating most (-1) material e.g.GNAA,FP,etc. Eliminating the human biasis in the moderation system (Since client-side moderation is out). Tagging interesting material (A Baysian agent).
Step 1: Allow the option to automatically discover and load canned training packages, eg: a directory under /etc. Make it automatically pick the right training file to use when called with a logfile (so eg: btail httpd.conf knows to look for the training for httpd.conf files).
/etc directory.
Step 2: Include btail with major distros
Step 3: Any package for an app that generates logs can come with a ready-made canned training package, which gets dropped into the
That way, you could apt-get a package, start btail-ing its logfiles immediately without the need to tediously train the filter first. Training would still be possible, to personalise the filter.
Bayesian tail might be neat. I like the idea of broadening the use, but I'd much rather see bayesian filters used on my in-box for more than just spam. I envision a filter that would sort out e-mails based on subject matter. This would have the net effect of improving the filter technology because it's trying to sort e-mails you actually want to look at.
We all know that if the filter makes a mistake and hides a message in the Spam box, and chances are you'll might miss many of them, another the chance to train the filter has been lost. But if an e-mail that was intended to land in the Irate Customer box, instead lands in the Clueless Customer box, the likelihood of noticing it is much greater.
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I love Bayes stuff - and there's a very nice Python module written by divmod.
I was playing around with AIML to cobble together a basic chat bot when I realised that I could use a Bayesian parser to radically cut down the amount of AIML that I needed to write. AIML is an XML style of chat bot repsonses, it's clever in that it's highly recursive but the downside is that you need to create a rule for every eventuality.
By adding in a bit of Bayesian guessing before the AIML parser got it hands on the conversation, I'm able to keep the AIML files very focused and give the chat bot a bit more sparkle - you don't have to train him about everything. After a while he realised that 'yo', 'hi' and 'hello' are all the same thing, so he just guesses that you're saying hello and pulls out the correct response from the AIML file (rather than creating an AIML rule to deal with all the variations on 'hello').
If you're interested I'd strongly recommend installing GrokitBot. You can get the source and a bit more explanation at my site, Suttree.com
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