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The Super Superhighway

valdean writes "The state of Texas is seeking to build a 4,000-mile megahighway network between Oklahoma and Mexico, called the Trans-Texas Corridor. The highway will be up to a quarter-mile across, and include separate lanes for passenger vehicles, large trucks, freight railways, high-speed commuter railways, and infrastructure for utilities including water lines, oil and gas pipelines, electricity, and broadband. In a recent press release, the governor of Texas said it will 'forever change the way we build roads.' So much for scenic drives."

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  1. Ah the Speed Limit by ravenspear · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The speed limit is an interesing thing though that varies with location.

    Here in Atlanta, we have some funny rules about that. It goes like this: If you aren't going at least 10 over then you are a fucking jackass and deserve to be run off the road. That is unless you are in the HOV lane. In that case you better be doing at least 20 over or you are fair game. Also, if you are in a small compact car, then you had better be going a lot faster than the average speed of SUVs on the same road, as they reserve the right to mow you over at any time they choose.

    Lastly, if you have a hummer, just FUCKING STOP PRETENDING THAT IT WILL HANDLE LIKE A VETTE! You'll sleep better and I promise your manhood won't suffer to much.

    Disclaimer: I'm not saying I agree with these rules. They are just what a majority of the local democracy has decided upon.

  2. Re:Speedy Limit by damiangerous · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Montana, late 90's. It was the safest period ever on the roads there.

  3. Improper transfer of wealth. by zerofoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The article suggests that the highway will be built with private funds, and the "operators" of the highway will charge tolls to recover their investment.

    One assumes that the "recovery" of the investment will net a positive return on investment - PROFIT.

    The article also states that some people stand to lose their property under "eminent domain" laws.

    The logical conclusion of this: The government is seizing private property and making it available for use by the private sector. This seems like an improper transfer of wealth.

    Eminent domain laws were designed to allow a government to seize property for the benefit of it's constituents. These laws were not intended for the benefit of a few "shareholders".

    Investors in this highway should beware of warping this law. The next property seized and given away might be their own.

    -ted

  4. Re:Soooo... by mingrassia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    >> What's wrong with Interstates?

    Hearing people make comments like this always reminds me of Robert Moses and the proposed Lower Manhattan Expressway and the Cross-Bronx Expressway.

    Most people don't stop to think about the destruction that occurs when building a highway. Indeed interstates are necessary, but they are often planned with little concern for historic preservation or the neighborhoods that they devastate.

    Think for a moment if Robert Moses would have been successful in building the Lower Manhattan Expressway. Imagine a NYC with no Greenwich Village, Soho, or Chinatown as we know it today.

    Granted we are talking about Texas :-) but I have to wonder what historically significant neighborhoods will be bulldozed to make this interstate happen.

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  5. Re:Speedy Limit by Doppler00 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ah I remember those reasonable and prudent signs in Montana. They still had regular speed limit signs in cities, it's just the highways had signs that said "Reasonable and Prudent" and then below that "Trucks: 55" or something like that.

    I wonder if that's because people didn't need to bother looking at their spedometer every few seconds to make sure they were not breaking the law. I would certainly be able to concentrate better driving if I didn't have to glance at my gauges all the time.

  6. Re:Speedy Limit by Atrax · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having driven on the German Autobahn in a somewhat underpowered Volkswagen, I'm more inclined to believe the safer record of Autobahns is because a significant portion of the driving population is just scared crapless to go on them(!)

    I found being passed by BMW M3s at nearly twice my speed was a little unnerving, and I'm a confident driver.

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  7. Re:Soooo... by deimtee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There used to be a station (that's a ranch to you yanks) in West Australia that actually was bigger than Texas. Pity it got broken up a few years ago as it was fun pointing it out to texans.

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  8. Eminent Domain by Theseus192 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The thing that galls me about this plan is they're talking about using Eminent Domain to appropriate people's land, and then hand that land over to a private company (a foreign owned one no less). Yes, the government can force people to sell land for public use but till recently that has meant state parks, military bases, and such - not private development.

    How much do you want to bet the developer is going to recoup their $175 billion investment by snatching up a 10-mile wide swath of what is now farm and ranch land, but will later be prime commercial real estate - and every possible access point to the superhighway - if this plan goes through.

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