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One Year on Mars

RetroGeek writes "It has been almost a full year for the Mars rovers. NASA has created a flashback of rover images and information. You can use either HTML or Flash (it is the best use of the technology I have seen). There is even a movie taken from the hazard avoidance camera showing the full year of travel."

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  1. Quoth TFA by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    stay tuned as the rovers welcome a brand new year on Mars.

    What does an earth year have to do with a martian year? Nothing thats what!

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    1. Re:Quoth TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
      We could all switch to the Darian calendar

    2. Re:Quoth TFA by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
      What does an earth year have to do with a martian year? Nothing thats what!

      These rovers are traditionalists who choose to keep the customs of their homeland, so they still celebrate the earth holidays.

    3. Re:Quoth TFA by uberdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

      05? 05? It's thinking like this that lead to the whole y2k crisis. It is 2005, not 05.

  2. Seasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the things that impressed me most about this mission is when they had to take into account the changing seasons on Mars, and their effect on the rovers.

    We are not only on other planets, but planning for spring!

    Happy new year! (And let's hope the evaporating methane does not mess up the sensors come summer :)

    1. Re:Seasons by flewp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then we better start welcoming our new Martian Groundhog ove-ohh fuck it.

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  3. Well by eclectro · · Score: 4, Funny


    maybe they could use the same sets for the manned mission.

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  4. PBS special next Tuesday by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those of us in the U.S. may be interested in the Welcome to Mars tht will be broadcast next Tuesday, January 4th, on Nova.

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    1. Re:PBS special next Tuesday by captaineo · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Those of us in the U.S. may be interested in the Welcome to Mars tht will be broadcast next Tuesday, January 4th, on Nova.

      (shameless plug)
      which includes about 5 minutes of new computer animation by your truly* :). The new shots of the rovers on Mars make use of actual terrain data; when you see the CG rovers they are shown in exactly the real environments down to the level of individual rocks. The lighting is also improved quite a bit over our previous work.

      Tuesday at 8PM on your local PBS station. Some will follow it with a repeat of Mars, Dead or Alive, last year's pre-launch show.

      * Props to assistant 3D modeler John Niehuss and software consultant Justin Wick (who happens to be a Slashdot reader too).

  5. Maybe I'm just a crumudgeon by bperkins · · Score: 3, Insightful
    it is the best use of the technology I have seen

    You have _got_ to be kidding me.

    It's only saving grace is that it's not flash by default. The intro looks like one of those late 80's slideshow, and the navigation of the main page is infuriatingly confusing and useless.

    I'm about to fire it off to one of my friends who teaches web design as an example of what _not_ to do in a web page.

    I actaully _like_ pretty flash, but when it just slows things down and makes navigation harder, well then it's stupid.

    I guess it's better than the html, which seems broken with my firefox setup.

    1. Re:Maybe I'm just a crumudgeon by tuomasr · · Score: 5, Funny

      I guess it's better than the html, which seems broken with my firefox setup.

      Yep, it's broken on firefox with me too, running default setup on WinXP.

      Given the fact that they can't make a simple webpage work with more than one browser makes me wonder how the hell did they manage to put two rovers on an another planet for a year...

      -1, Idiot

    2. Re:Maybe I'm just a crumudgeon by mcg1969 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Works fine with Firefox/WinXP for me. Are you sure you don't have any funny extensions installed? For example, I did indeed discover that the Tabbrowser Preferences extension doesn't play well with windows that have no menu bars.

    3. Re:Maybe I'm just a crumudgeon by USCG · · Score: 2, Informative

      It works fine on my (Mandrake) Linux laptop with Mozilla 1.7.3 and the Linux Flash Player 7...

    4. Re:Maybe I'm just a crumudgeon by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      [it is the best use of [Flash] I have seen.] You have _got_ to be kidding me.

      I didn't see much that couldn't be done with just HTML. They may have to reduce or rid fade-ins and intra-image roll-overs though, but that is minor.

      Also, the HTML version that they present seems broken. None of the links work for me.

    5. Re:Maybe I'm just a crumudgeon by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Given the fact that they can't make a simple webpage work with more than one browser makes me wonder how the hell did they manage to put two rovers on an another planet for a year...

      Being a Fed agency, they can only do stuff they have a budget for. They probably have a very tiny budget for such a web presentation and thus let newbie interns do most of it who have little or no experience or recognition of cross-browser and cross-platform issues.

  6. Re:Water on Mars by eclectro · · Score: 3, Funny

    Seems to put to bed the question of liquid water on Mars.

    And how do we know that isn't the rover's transmission fluid that leaked out??

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  7. A new milestone. by qualico · · Score: 4, Informative

    Now lets try for a Mars Year,
    322 days to go.

    Interesting information on Mars Time:
    http://www.giss.nasa.gov/tools/mars24/help/notes.h tml

    What is time really?
    It helps us sync here on Earth, but it certainly
    gets crazy once we move into the great beyond.

    Wonder what those Mars team members are doing for New Year?
    They had to follow a different time.

    Cicadian Time would certainly be muddled.
    http://www.nsbri.org/Research/Projects/viewsummary .epl?pid=55

  8. Science over everything by Pecisk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think NASA rovers was one of the rare things in 2004 which united whole world. They were there for purerly scientific reasons, they did what they had been sent to do, even more - they continue to rock on and provide more and more details, overloading NASA scientists with work for years.

    I see it as victory of science over money, politics, everything which seperate us. Because I think nothing beat those news that we discovered that Mars once definetly has water. So... there should be living organisms on other planets. There could be something like us, humans.

    I think nothing beats that feeling when science and common sence works for whole humanity.

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    1. Re:Science over everything by EpsCylonB · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think nothing beats that feeling when science and common sence[sic] works for whole humanity.

      I think uniting the whole world might be a bit strong but it definitely shows the difference between the west and some places where intellect isn't valued at all.

      Above all it is clear blind religous fundamentalism, whether prohibiting the teaching of evolution in american schools or inspiring people to attack others through suicide, is the biggest threat to our exploration of the universe we live in.

    2. Re:Science over everything by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 3, Funny
      There could be something like us, humans.

      Doesn't that comma imply that you are something other than human and are talking to humans? In which case you should be saying 'Take me to your leader' - its traditional.

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  9. Grab some popcorn? by SharpFang · · Score: 4, Funny

    The movie section says "grab some popcorn and select one of the movies to the left to start the show". I'd rather say "select one of the movies to the left, then drive to the mall to buy some popcorn, and when you're back, it will start".

    Dear Sirs. We managed to slashdot NASA. Congratulations.

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  10. Wow, I didn't realize they were so BIG by melted · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For some reason I thought the rovers were MUCH smaller than they really are. Heck, this thing is bigger than the lunar "automobile" (the copy of it I've seen in Boeing museum).

    1. Re:Wow, I didn't realize they were so BIG by wronkiew · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apollo lunar rover dimensions: 3.0m x 2.3m
      Mars Exploration Rover dimensions: 1.6m x 2.3m

      Perhaps the copy you saw was a scale model?

  11. Holy Childhood Flashbacks... by JohnPerkins · · Score: 4, Informative

    I seem to recall, from reading Lucky Starr in the 1970s, that the Martian year is 687 Earth days.

    With the rovers there for so long, it sure would be interesting to get them back here. Nice chance to study the long-term effects of the Martian environment.

  12. Re:NASA slashdotted! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are you alowing for the time-lag to Mars and back?

  13. Are you joking? by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Want me to dig up the "Beagle 2 lost" and "NASA Rovers working" stories? All that rambling about NASA superiority over ESA, "US - Europe 2:0" and such? Maybe if they were a common effort, they would unite the world, but it seems with Beagle 2 demise they only made the conflict deeper.
    No, of course they are great devices, great succes, and scientifically priceless and all that. It's just that they didn't help a thing on the social level.

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    1. Re:Are you joking? by lime1304 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the rovers success encouraged a little ego massage at NASA but after the Shuttle disaster, they needed it. The Cassini-Huygens mission, on the other hand is showing what can happen if there is true international cooperation in space. Up to this point, that mission has been nearly flawless, and even the missteps have been recoverable. Hopefully Europe's Huygens can make a successful descent, and give insight into Titan's composition.

  14. Re:One of our years, actually. by rainman_bc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Technically, a year is how long it takes for the earth to revolve around the sun.

    A martian year is measured in terms of earth years.

    So technically, a year is a constant as the earth's rotation around the Sun.

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  15. Re:Water on Mars by Pompatus · · Score: 4, Funny

    And how do we know that isn't the rover's transmission fluid that leaked out??

    Because Ford motor company didn't make it.

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  16. Premature? by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Spirit landed in early January and Opportunity in late January. If something goes wrong between now and then, the "Year on Mars" campaign will have egg all over it.

  17. Re:One of our years, actually. by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    A martian 'year' is much longer...

    Oh, stop complaining about download times.

  18. Mars Time on your computer by IO+ERROR · · Score: 2, Informative
    You didn't even mention that they have for download a nice little program (runs on Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, and probably anything else) which will tell you the time on Mars. Or just view it in your browser window (Java required).

    Mars24 is a Java program and browser applet which displays a Mars "sunclock", a graphical representation of the planet Mars showing its current sun- and nightsides, along with a numerical readout of the time in 24-hour format. Other displays include a plot showing the relative orbital positions of Mars and Earth and a diagram showing the solar angle for a given location on Mars.

    Mars24 runs on many different types of computers, including Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, and more, but it requires Java 1.3.1 or better be installed on the computer. The associated MER Spirit/Opportunity Clock Applet requires only Java 1.1.8 and is compatible with many older web browsers, but it does not include the sunclock or other graphic displays of Mars24.

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  19. From everything I've seen so far.... by tdhillman · · Score: 2, Funny

    First prize: a year on Mars.

    Second Prize: two years on Mars.

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  20. Don't you mean... by uberdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    322 days? Should't you be measuring in sols?

  21. Re:Unmanned mission to mars is OK by Teancum · · Score: 2, Informative

    Helium-3 is considered the prime resource for the Moon, not Mars. Martian soil is unlikely to have much Helium due to the fact that it has a (compared to the Moon) thick atmosphere of other gasses. On the moon, much of the solar wind is able to directly impact the soil, which allows the Helium-3 to embed into the rocks on the lunar surface.

    Similar conditions also exist on Phobos and Deimos, but in that case any Helium-3 extracted there will probabaly be used by Mars, and not the Earth, if any Martian colonies ever get established.

    As far as a good location for a telescope, the Sea of Moscow (on the far side of the moon) or perhaps even closer to the lunar equator would be a fantastic location for a radio telescope.... you would be able to block out almost all human radio traffic, and all that is left would be from space missions in interplantary space. I hope that I can see it built in my lifetime.