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An anonymous reader writes "Former G4TechTV employee, Dan Huard, blows the whistle on G4. In the last half of his article, he states that TSS manufactured questions and used 'ringers' to ask their questions on the show."

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  1. Is that really of significance? by ravenspear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Leo was the only person giving TSS any semblance of watchability. When he left the whole thing spiraled down the toilet fairly quickly. Even before then, a lot of the unique tech content that made TSS cool at the beginning had started to be replaced with useless fluff.

    1. Re:Is that really of significance? by steeleye_brad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bingo. It seems very few people acknowledge this. Leo was one of the few people on TechTV who appeared to actually have some training and experience in live television. Jittery nerds do not make good TV...case in point is Chris Pirillo. I don't why people thought he was good, that man just wasn't made for live TV.

      I haven't watched TechTV since it became G4TechTV (god damn what a terrible name). It is a shame Comcast has essentially dissolved TechTV, the end result of this merger was G4 getting a few new people and some new shows (many of which are now gone!).

    2. Re:Is that really of significance? by blixel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bingo. It seems very few people acknowledge this. Leo was one of the few people on TechTV who appeared to actually have some training and experience in live television. Jittery nerds do not make good TV...

      Bingo. The part I find "funny" though is all the geek elitists think that just because a person puts on a smile and speaks fluently in a way that normal people can comprehend that the TV Show and/or person is "clueless" or whatever.

      I really liked watching Leo and Patrick. I thought they had a nice balance of TV presence and intelligence. I hate all the slashbots that would bash ZDTV/TechTV as being a show for morons. Get over yourselves.

      How interesting would it be to watch a completely introverted super nerd with a squeaky voice stumble and stutter every word while he's standing there on live TV staring at his shoe laces because he's too withdrawn to look at the camera.

      I liked the format of ZDTV/TechTV ... I thought it was interesting and yes, even informative at times.

      I don't like what the network has become. G4TechTV or whatever. I believe they are actually just calling it G4TV now because they don't want anything to do with Tech. But I don't hate the network because I'm so full of myself that I can't enjoy watching a "remedial" television show. I hate the network because they have completely gotten rid of everything tech related.

      But have you seen the programming lately? It's ALL games. One or two shows about games is cool .. I like a game every now and then and like to hear opinions and stay abreast about the latest games. But holy crap ... it's 24/7 video games now. And it's not even interesting to watch. Who wants to watch an hour of video game cut scenes ala Cinematech? Do we really need 3 different shows about video game reviews? Do we really need an entire show dedicated to video game cheat codes?

  2. TechTV was once a very good TV station, but... by ChairmanMeow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I haven't watched TechTV since it was bought out by G4, and, to be honest, I don't intend to start. It was excellent before the takeover, but afterwards, the focus changed, and it became clear that the new management didn't want the "geeks" that watched TechTV. So be it. But don't expect me to watch G4/TechTV anymore.

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  3. This is media. It's pretty much all this way. by human+bean · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The purpose of a media company is to make money selling product and promoting the owner's point of view. This, in turn, means that viewer share is paramount, and that if you have to "fix" the content to get more viewer share, so be it.

    Viewers do not want reality. They get enough of it from work, raising children, the tax man, and the world in general. They want to associate, identify, and forget the crummy world they had to endure most of the day. The masses want Disney, okay?

    You should always remember a media business truism: "The public are morons". Media types will never say this out where you can hear them, but I have sat through enough conference room discussions to know where these folks land. The reason for this is simple. In the great statistical average of the world, it's true. As much as you would have it otherwise.

    It is said that only one person out of thirty creates art, literature, science, or policy. Skip media. Hang around those folks instead. Become one of them. We need all we can get.

    Yes, I consider the Internet to be media now...

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  4. For what it's worth... by Create+an+Account · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think people are shocked that it happened, but I do think it's good to get the straight scoop about how the situation evolved.

    As a moderately geeky business major, I see this as a management failure, so having this story helps me understand how not to screw up something good. If some geeky broadcast majors read this article, maybe they can help prevent some other geeky goodness from failing later.

    Just my two cents worth.

    1. Re:For what it's worth... by Create+an+Account · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't want to start an argument here, so please forgive me for seeming pedantic.

      I would respectfully suggest that if your performance indicators and performance bonuses are encouraging behaviors that result in your show going off the air, or losing your core audience without creating a similarly robust replacement, then you are using the wrong indicators. So, maybe the management failure is not in the control booth. Maybe it's in the front office, or in the corporate headquarters.

      If the financial requirements cause you to degrade the quality of your product, then either your product is not ready for the market (or vice versa) or you have not been sufficiently creative in your market planning. Bringing the business side and the 'entertainment' side together is the job of management.

      At least, that's the way the schools I attend teach it. Anyway, thanks for listening.

  5. Re:Not surprised. by rednip · · Score: 4, Insightful
    All that's left is good-looking, young hosts who don't know jack about what they are talking about.
    Sounds like a typical layoff cycle. First you get rid of all the people who quietly get their work done, but don't kiss the ass of the right people, then the rest of the good workers start seeing a sinking ship and bolt. After that all you got left are the kiss-ass, blame layers, who make it their job do drive off anyone good left. Nothing new here...
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  6. Re:G4, the MTV of tech by sixy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    To the geeks here I say, "Boycott G4 and their sponsers. Write letters to the sponsers. Boycott their lame message boards. Spread the word far and wide."
    I'd actually have to watch the shows to know who the sponsors were.
  7. At one time... by vwjeff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the Screen Savers were the only show on TV that would come close to taking about technology. Where else on TV would you hear Linux mentioned as well as a live install (as Megan did on a show) They would often mention programs that I had never heard of and I would go download them. The first time I heard of Knoppix was on The Screensavers. Hell, they even had Taco in for an interview. (The last good thing they did after the merger)

    I once loved watching the show but now I can't. The new hosts are all about gaming, gaming, gaming.

  8. A lot of people don't understand this, but... by pappy97 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it is pretty clear that Comcast wanted to make use the TechTV trademark (because it's popularity was growing) to promote G4.

    Furthermore, I think it's cleat that Comcast has intentionally alienated hardcore TechTV viewers.

    I have had people who work in TV tell me that nobody tries to alienate any viewers, but I think it is more than clear that G4 wants TechTV viewers out and replace them with an MTV crowd.

    Want evidence of this? Look at the commercials. Gone are the cadillac commercials. Insert the goofy video game commercials, and some really stupid (dumbed down) computer hardware commercials. I saw an nViDiA commercial that actually explained what a GPU was!

    I figured such a commercial was more non-tech channel worthy, but when you consider G4 is driving out tech-oriented viewers for MTV gamers, these "dumb" commericals are quite appropo.

  9. Re:Even X-Play Sucks by cqnn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You didn't watch enough. That was probably one
    of the theme episodes they occasionally did even
    when it was on TechTV.

    X-Play is one of the few things that seems to
    have improved (with opinions and critisism intact) since the merger.

  10. Re:Depressing... by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I was never a Leo fan, but I'd just adjusted to the first road of changes when they added the 'guy I can't remember the name of' to cohost with Kevin with Dan, Yoshi, and Sarah backing them up. Now it's Chi-Lan, that other guy from G4 who hardly seems to know what a PC is (edit: Kevin Pereira I guess, now that I looked it up) , Kevin and Sarah... Personally I think Diane Mizota has more personality than Chi-Lan or for that matter the girls that did G4tv.com (Tina Wood and Laura Foy). Any of those would have been better choices, but I'm taking a wild guess and saying they all turned down the chance to be on TSS...

    I was never a big TechTV fan, but TSS was a fairly good view while eating lunch and safe viewing material for people like my parents who might not understand everything on the show, but got a fair education into subjects they wouldn't have before... Now I'm back to telling people to avoid the whole channel, it's rather sad...

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