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More Linux Portable Media Players On The Way

An anonymous reader writes "According to LinuxDevices.com, Taiwanese motherboard maker FIC will unveil a Linux-based portable media player (PMP) at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week. FIC's 'Vassili' includes a 3.6-inch color LCD screen and a 20GB hard drive, and supports files in MPEG 1-4, MP3, WMA, WAV, ASF, AVI, and JPEG format. Speaking of Linux-based PMPs, Archos will also showcase its lastest PMP, the Pocket Media Assistant PMA400 at CES, and other Linux-based PMPs have recently been announced by iRiver, Veritouch, and Zupera."

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  1. Re:But is it OPEN? by tobiasly · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Neuros has open firmware, hardware, and software. You currently have to download a trial version of TI's compiler for their DSP, but last I knew there was an effort underway to get a gcc target written for it.

    Start here to find out more about its open-sourceness.

  2. Re:But is it OPEN? by teh_winch · · Score: 2, Informative

    The rockbox people are now working on firmware for the iriver H series. It looks like it's still quite a way off.
    http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverI nfo

  3. Re:I'll save you all the trouble. . . by JaxWeb · · Score: 4, Informative

    Seeing as you're lazy, I'll click those little hyperlinks for you. Maybe I'll get like modded up or something for my efforts:

    The FIC Vassili is limited to MPEG4, MP3, WMA, WAV, ASF, AVI, and JPEG.

    The iRiver PMP-120 does not currently support it, but they promise it will soon, I think.

    The VeriTouch iVue doesn't mention which formats it supports.

    Zupera Technology's one is limited to MP3, WMA, WAV, CD and AC-3.

    So none of them support it.

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  4. Re:I'll save you all the trouble. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Neuros supports it and it's a damn fine player too.

  5. Re:I'll save you all the trouble. . . by JaxWeb · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, This says that the iRiver supports OGG out of the box.

    So iRiver does.

    iRiver seem to make great players in any case. When I get a new MP3 player, I'll get an iRiver. Especially if Rockbox is ported to it!

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  6. Re:But the real question is... by forceflow2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Probably because while USB has a higher theoretical speed than firewire, the constant sustained transfer rate of firewire is usually much higher than that of USB. (ever wonder why most cameras go with it?) http://www.usb-ware.com/firewire-vs-usb.htm --more info if you want.

  7. Re:But the real question is... by Catbeller · · Score: 5, Informative

    Valid question.

    -Firewire is freely licensed by Apple.
    -USB is not. At least last I heard.

    -Firewire does not require a CPU, ie a PC, to mediate file transfers.
    -USB requires a PC. And originally, Windows, tho that changed eventually.

    -Firewire 400 is faster than USB.
    -Firewire 800 is faster than USB2. Note that contention on the inferior bus and the mediation of the CPU are two big factors that retard USB and USB2.

    -Firewire, six-pin, has a superior ability to power peripherals compared to USB.

    -(Bone to pick) Firewire and USB were introduced by Apple and Intel, respectively. Intel used its influence in mobo design and OEM to promote its own, inferior, standard over Apple's. (And Apple waived the licensing fees - $1 per mobo, I believe, early, so that was not a factor). As a result, to this day Firewire still hasn't hit the magic numbers to drop the cost down to parity with USB. Microsoft had no small role in retarding the introduction of Firewire in Windows. MS/Intel swing a lot of weight. They did not exactly like Apple making a new standard.

    So we're stuck with a slower data transfer rate in real life and a lousy peripheral power option because Intel wanted to rool over all.

  8. Re:I hope they use mplayer... (and support NUV) by poopie · · Score: 2, Informative

    well, if you have a *hardware* mpeg encoder card, it will record a *.nuv file that is actually a mpeg2 file (or is supposed to be at least), but if you transcode it down, you can end up with a *.nuv file that isn't an mpeg2 file.

    There are many TV cards that aren't mpeg2 hardware encoders.

    My point is/was that Linux and mplayer provide extremely good codec and format coverage.

    Along similar lines, I find that the cheapie DVD players can play any VCD, DVD, DVD+R DVD-R, DVCD, KVCD, XVCD or whatever file format I can throw at them, whereas the name brand players choke on far too many of the "somewhat unusual" formats.

  9. Re:But is it OPEN? by standsolid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lucky you! aA solution!

    Open firmware for a popular PMP!

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  10. Re:But is it OPEN? by telekon · · Score: 3, Informative
    Yeah the Neuros is really cool... especially if you're running windows, according to their website. When they have linux support, I'll buy one. But my sense of irony isn't fine-tuned enough to run an inferior, proprietary OS just to upload music to my open-source MP3 Player.

    I use plenty of hardware with third-party, hacked drivers and such, but if I'm shelling out US$300 or US$400 for an MP3 player, it would be nice to have support for at least some decent OS.

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  11. Re:How did FIC license wmv for Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was under the impression that the wmv family of formats was proprietary to Microsoft. I'd be shocked into next Tuesday if MS licensed those codecs to be used for a Linux-based player.

    I hope you're sitting down: any company is allowed to license WMA/WMV for any platform. Microsoft hates Linux, but they won't sacrifice Windows Media world domination just to spite Linux.

  12. Re:I hope they use mplayer... (and support NUV) by Trelane · · Score: 2, Informative
    Well... mythtv records in this crazy format called NUV.

    It's not really a crazy format. If I remember correctly, It's an information wrapper around some other media format (MPEG2, MPEG4, etc.) You can then export it to various other standard formats via nuvexport.

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  13. Re:But the real question is... by marcello_dl · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think an advantage to the consumer is an external drive that behaves as closely as possible to an internal one. It seems that firewire performs better:
    http://www.digit-life.com/articles/usb20vsfirewire /

    Given the option I'd get an HD with both interfaces and use firewire as much as i can.

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