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Biofeedback Video Game

Thanks to georgehm3 for pointing out a video game available at bio-medical.com called The Journey to Wild Divine. The game uses a series of sensors connected to your pc via USB port to determine your body's state of relaxation. From the informational page: "We take them on a mythological tour and on this tour, we teach them ancient techniques such as breathing exercises, meditation exercises, a number of tools you can use in real life."

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  1. Old news by Smilin · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Commodore 64 had a program that would do this.

    Basically it had two modes. Mode 1 would display a visual kalidescope of colors that would change hue as you relaxed. Mode 2 was this game that you had to control a hot air balloon as it flew over and under obstacles.

  2. relax on Windows? by FCAdcock · · Score: 2, Funny

    144.95 to learn to relax while running Windows? Can't I just install Fedora for free?

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  3. The real website by SSpade · · Score: 2, Informative

    The URL you're looking for is http://www.wilddivine.com/

    Good game, been out for quite a while. Works well.

    1. Re:The real website by SLot · · Score: 1

      AND already reviewed on /. twice.

      Check for yourself.

  4. FP! by ClioCJS · · Score: 0, Troll

    I never get to do these.

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  5. Resistance by JohnFluxx · · Score: 1

    It's an expensive ohm-meter. It's just measuring the resistance across your body.
    Your resistance is affected by mood (because it affects the salt in your blood, iirc)

    1. Re:Resistance by pnice · · Score: 1

      Actually I think they just use your pulse to determine how relaxed you are. In the article, "Using the biosignals in their body -- we use heart rate, we use the same technology used in lie detector tests" or maybe that is just to hide the fact that they really use resistance. Yeah, that's it.

    2. Re:Resistance by phauxfinnish · · Score: 3, Informative
      From the site:
      Three "Magic Rings" Biofeedback finger sensors, GSR & Heart Rate, with connecting cable

      I agree that TFA is poorly worded while describing how it works, but at least their package manifest correctly identifies the technology.

    3. Re:Resistance by x00101010x · · Score: 1

      If you want a "toy" worth the money, check out a full EEG biofeedback rig. Yes, I did some work for these guys, but I don't get any benefit from plugging 'em (no royalties, etc). I just thought it was facinating stuff. Check eegspectrum.com or neurocybernetics.com for more info. Their gear is intended for psycho-therapy type applications, but on milder settings it can be relaxing (of course, if you don't know what you're doing, you can also give yourself a migraine from hell, this is real medical gear).

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    4. Re:Resistance by F34nor · · Score: 1

      They also need a tumesence monitor, EKG, and respiration rate. Brainwave would be good but too expensie.

      They do make a brainwave video game mod. Its for ADD kids. It works by monitoring brain state, when the kid is in an attentive state the controller functions correctly. If the kid is not in the correct state the reaction time by the controller slows making the game F*&SKING annoying. Great idea but a ivory tower hardware setup.

  6. Open it up! by dr.badass · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would be a lot more intrested in paying $150 for something like this if not for the hokey New Age garbage surrounding it. If it were open enough that anyone could write apps for it, I'd snatch it up right away.

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    1. Re:Open it up! by SSpade · · Score: 2, Informative

      If it were open enough that anyone could write apps for it, I'd snatch it up right away.

      Like this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/lsm/

    2. Re:Open it up! by dr.badass · · Score: 1

      Indeed, quite like that, thanks.

      Now to port it to Mono...

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  7. You should see these guys by x00101010x · · Score: 2, Informative

    I did some work on a few neurofeedback projects for Neurocybernetics a couple years ago. It's really facinating stuff. Their programmes go further than simple relaxation and actually work as an alternative to psychoactive medications for the treatment of anything from bipolar to ADD to drug addictions (by focusing on different ranges of brain waves). They use feedback to train your brain to balance itself (and i won't say more than that without fear of getting the bejeezus sued outta me). Check 'em out here: http://neurocybernetics.com/ (I did some of the 3D stuff)

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  8. Better link by x00101010x · · Score: 2, Informative

    Neurocybernetics' website isn't as informative as it used to be. Try EEG Spectrum's instead: http://www.eegspectrum.com/

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  9. Sounds Familiar by Saige · · Score: 0, Troll

    You know, I seem to reading about this game sometime before. Nah, must just be my imagination. They'd never post a duplicate, would they?

    Yeah, yeah, I know, complaining about Slashdot double/triple posting is itself just as redundant as the posts. I still don't get why they don't actually try searching on a few keywords from the story before posting just to avoid such things.

    Regardless, the game itself has sounded very interesting when I've read about it. I know I'd like to give it a try, and I'm sure it is quite possible that it would be helpful in teaching me to relax more successfully. I'm not sure if I want to spend that much money on it without trying it out, though.

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    1. Re:Sounds Familiar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you'd ever tried to use slashdot's search feature you'd know how terrible it performs. Often you have a better chance of googling the article you want than using slashdot's own search tool...

    2. Re:Sounds Familiar by Saige · · Score: 1

      If you'd ever tried to use slashdot's search feature you'd know how terrible it performs. Often you have a better chance of googling the article you want than using slashdot's own search tool...

      You mean the search function that yielded the links I had in my original comment?

      It's not great, but it does work somewhat. I guess it would be better if the editors used it...

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  10. The Chair! by generic-man · · Score: 1

    Now all they need to do is work John McEnroe into the game, and they can build The Chair as seen on ABC! You can re-enact all three episodes in your own home!

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  11. Playing it as Fantasy game by stripe42 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have been looking at this game over the past year or so and received it for Christmas. The biofeedback works well and I'm just beginning to learn to control the various elements. I've worked with sound-induced brain wave synchronization (anyone remember mindsync?) and this game reminds of some of those mental states.

    The "new age" theme to me is more like playing a D&D game in the role of a wizard or cleric.

    The graphics remind me of Myst -- highly rendered static scenes with motion captured "actors" and some CG decoration (waterfall, birds) and objects for biofeedback training exercises (floating balls, fire, pin-wheels...). Navigation is like watching a short movie as you progress from area to area.

    I rather enjoy the music -- it fits the mood well. I'd classify it as Ambient.

    I'm cheap and skeptical so the price is more than I'd want to pay without a trial (however that'd be achieved), but I am very satisfied with the product. The only two additions I'd like so far are 1) recording biofeedback input of what was being detected by the sensors, and 2) ability to quickly jump from exercise to exercise instead of navigating the game-space. I look forward to exploring the project on source forge posted above. Thanks for the link!

    1. Re:Playing it as Fantasy game by zonenoz · · Score: 1

      you can get #2 if you email there support and ask for the "chapter menu download" I don't know why they took it if off the site.

      They have a second game coming out soon with Deepak Chopra as one of the characters. You can read about it here.

    2. Re:Playing it as Fantasy game by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      You know, I always wished they made an RPG out of this thing like you mentioned. It would be so cool if you actually had to concentrate and think a certain way to cast a certain spell, and how well you did it determined its effectiveness. That would ROCK.

      That being said, whats the replayability on this sucker? How many different "minigames" are there? Is it a game you definitely need to play alone, or would it be a cool thing for a few friends to sit around playing?

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    3. Re:Playing it as Fantasy game by stripe42 · · Score: 1

      Thanks! I'll ask support for that. For some reason I never think of contacting a company for requests, but how else are they going to know? I suspect working for a corporation has diminished my expectations.

      I have wanted a biofeedback setup for a while but always thought they would be too advanced or too cheesy, so this is a nice middle road. I know a number of other people that will be interested in the Chopra link too.

    4. Re:Playing it as Fantasy game by stripe42 · · Score: 1

      Replayability I can't quite speak too as I've only gone through about half dozen exercises/minigames. But I think it'll be fun from time to time, especially with the chapter selection mentioned above. I am currently viewing this as meditation time. You have to "get excited" to increase your heart rate for some of the minigames, so it's more than just solemn relaxation with rhythmic breathing. Very yogic.

      The book says you can play alone or with someone, and that towards the end it may be required to solve a puzzle? I'll have to double check that. Essentially, it says one person can wear two of the rings, and the other wear one. I can't quite imagine it though. For me this is a single player. Even having my wife comment on random things kinda distracts, but I guess that's sort of a part of playing -- better focus and recognition of internal states.

    5. Re:Playing it as Fantasy game by zonenoz · · Score: 1

      With the "chapter menu" the replay is pretty high. You can go to the mini-game( more of a mini bio feed back session) that you like. I do this often but probably wouldn't play the whole game through again. I am waiting for the next game to come out.

      There are some visualization "mini-games" that you can do with another person but I haven't tried that yet.

  12. Intriguing Biofeedback Abandonware by fm6 · · Score: 1
    Many years ago, I stumbled onto an unattended demo at Fry's. It was a very simple device that seem to measure some simple biological parameter (skin resistance?) when you put your hand on a metal plate. I don't recall all the things it was supposed to be good for, but the function they were demoing was very suprising: a simple steering control. You looked at the monitor, which was running a downhill skiing sim, and thought about the direction you wanted to go. It actually worked!

    I was in a hurry, and left, thinking I'd hear more about this product later. But I never did. Anybody know WTF this was?

  13. Just imagine... by wheresdrew · · Score: 1
    If somebody combined the biofeedback from this game with Rez...

    Now that would make for some interesting gaming. ^.^

    1. Re:Just imagine... by chendo · · Score: 1

      What, the point of the game is staying alive for as long as possible, and the game ends when you orgasm?

      Interesting? Maybe, but I was thinking more 'adult gaming'.

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  14. Mega64 by Foo2rama · · Score: 2, Insightful

    http://www.mega64.com/ I think it is out and being secreatly beat tested...

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