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Apple Defendants Interviewed

evands writes "There's an interview with Desicanuk, one of three named defendants in the Apple lawsuit alleging illegal distribution of a Tiger developer build, and Nessence, one of two administrators of MacTKA, the Mac BitTorrent tracker site where the build was initially posted, up at DrunkenBlog. The interview tells the whole story as a press release can not, from how Apple determined the kids to sue, to lawyers knocking on doors on Christmas Eve, and beyond. 'Collateral Damage' is a fascinating read which humanizes the whole messy situation."

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  1. Go figure... by Sheetrock · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Some companies view a buggy leak as an opportunity to generate free buzz about the final product. Some view it as an opportunity to use the legal system to bludgeon extreme enthusiasts that have allegedly crossed the line.

    Maybe it's time to look at OS marketshare to see how the different strategies work out.

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    Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
    -- Dr. Spock, stardate 2822-3.




    1. Re:Go figure... by computerme · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "alleged"

      from the link:

      I made the foolish assumption that since I wasn't a developer, and I had a copy that it would be ok if I shared it with 5 or 6 fellow mac fanatics.

      As to the question, did I do exactly what Apple is accusing me of doing? I did share the file. So in that regard yes. But there was no malicious intent.

      STFU.

  2. Remain SILENT by spywarearcata.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What an idiot. This interview will become evidence against him.

    When charged with a criminal or civil offense:

    1. remain silent;
    2. talk to an attorney;
    3. if case unresolved, goto 1

    Of course in the United States you do not have the right to an attorney if charged with a civil offense.
    You also do not have the right to be silent at trial, unless your statement may tend to incriminate you.

    Note that in the above program, there is no "grandstand / justify / brag to a blogger" statement.

    1. Re:Remain SILENT by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What an idiot. This interview will become evidence against him.

      When charged with a criminal or civil offense:

      1. remain silent;
      2. talk to an attorney;
      3. if case unresolved, goto 1


      He's only an idiot if he's trying to weasel out of it and plead not guilty. By his account, he's accepting responsibility for his actions and thus not an idiot. Hard concept to grasp, I know....

    2. Re:Remain SILENT by spywarearcata.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Distinguish "accepting responsibility" from "letting yourself be at the mercy of the plaintiffs."

      You don't have to the do the second in order to accomplish the first. A person with more intelligence and experience might realize that during an emotional situation one's judgment might not be the best, and that even though the person was a central player in the situation he might not know the entire relevant facts and law to judge one's own liability or guilt or to make conclusions about the situation.

      THAT is why you remain silent. Not because you are avoiding responsbility for your acts.

  3. What's Messy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The guy lied, violated his NDA and posted valuable copyrighted material which he did not own to a public site. Let him twist in the wind.

  4. How did THAT happen? by Saxerman · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What stood out for me was:

    When I mentioned it to a few people in various IRC chat rooms, they had asked if they could get a copy too. I made the foolish assumption that since I wasn't a developer, and I had a copy that it would be ok if I shared it with 5 or 6 fellow mac fanatics.

    And then he's surprised when it escapes out in the wild. Don't they teach kids the safe sex warnings anymore? You're not just sharing with all your friends, you're sharing with all their friends too.

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    A steaming cup of soykaf would be real wiz right now.

  5. he probably knew what he was doing is wrong... by jxyama · · Score: 4, Insightful
    >After about 3 hours of seeding, a Mod for the site disabled the torrent. I assumed that there must have been something wrong with the file I uploaded, so I stopped my seed and deleted the file. I didn't even get a chance to install it.

    so he goes through all the trouble of finding out about ADC to get the seed, but as soon as the torrent is disabled by a mod, he "assumes" that the file is messed up and deletes it? sounds more like he deleted it because he got fearful in getting an indirect confirmation that leaking it was wrong...