Apple Defendants Interviewed

evands writes "There's an interview with Desicanuk, one of three named defendants in the Apple lawsuit alleging illegal distribution of a Tiger developer build, and Nessence, one of two administrators of MacTKA, the Mac BitTorrent tracker site where the build was initially posted, up at DrunkenBlog. The interview tells the whole story as a press release can not, from how Apple determined the kids to sue, to lawyers knocking on doors on Christmas Eve, and beyond. 'Collateral Damage' is a fascinating read which humanizes the whole messy situation."

Comments

Go figure...

[Sheetrock]

Some companies view a buggy leak as an opportunity to generate free buzz about the final product. Some view it as an opportunity to use the legal system to bludgeon extreme enthusiasts that have allegedly crossed the line.

Maybe it's time to look at OS marketshare to see how the different strategies work out.

Tiger

[Anonymous Coward]

Releasing a Tiger into the wild is never a good idea, even if you're an experienced Safari user.

Remain SILENT

[spywarearcata.com]

What an idiot. This interview will become evidence against him.

When charged with a criminal or civil offense:

1. remain silent;
2. talk to an attorney;
3. if case unresolved, goto 1

Of course in the United States you do not have the right to an attorney if charged with a civil offense.
You also do not have the right to be silent at trial, unless your statement may tend to incriminate you.

Note that in the above program, there is no "grandstand / justify / brag to a blogger" statement.

Re:Remain SILENT

[Rick Zeman]

What an idiot. This interview will become evidence against him.

When charged with a criminal or civil offense:

1. remain silent;
2. talk to an attorney;
3. if case unresolved, goto 1


He's only an idiot if he's trying to weasel out of it and plead not guilty. By his account, he's accepting responsibility for his actions and thus not an idiot. Hard concept to grasp, I know....

Re:Remain SILENT

[spywarearcata.com]

Distinguish "accepting responsibility" from "letting yourself be at the mercy of the plaintiffs."

You don't have to the do the second in order to accomplish the first. A person with more intelligence and experience might realize that during an emotional situation one's judgment might not be the best, and that even though the person was a central player in the situation he might not know the entire relevant facts and law to judge one's own liability or guilt or to make conclusions about the situation.

THAT is why you remain silent. Not because you are avoiding responsbility for your acts.

How did THAT happen?

[Saxerman]

What stood out for me was:

When I mentioned it to a few people in various IRC chat rooms, they had asked if they could get a copy too. I made the foolish assumption that since I wasn't a developer, and I had a copy that it would be ok if I shared it with 5 or 6 fellow mac fanatics.

And then he's surprised when it escapes out in the wild. Don't they teach kids the safe sex warnings anymore? You're not just sharing with all your friends, you're sharing with all their friends too.

ADC Security

[toonerh]

For $500 per year anyone who agrees to follow Apple's ADC NDA agreement has access to 5 "Software Seed Keys". Anyone can join can and obtain an ADC account for free and what are called "assets" can be passed to other ADC account holders in the same company. That way a company can have 5 developers directly downloading prerelease software with only 1 membership.

There are other, less secretive assets such as the right to buy a Mac system at a discount, albeit for development purposes and not for resale.

Apple also has much more tightly controlled seeds to key developers, these exist but the procedures and those who are involved are a tightly guarded secret. They used to be only distributed on physical media by private carrier.

The lawsuit involved the regular seeded software only, not the uber-secret stuff. To my knowledge that has rarely, if ever, made it into the wild.

Re:Sigh

[TheRaven64]

Not to mention the fact that when GCC 4 is released with Objective-C++ support (by the way, the Apple developers have been very helpful in modifying their GCC changes so that they can be incorporated into the main trunk) we are likely to see at least one GNUstep web browser based on webkit.