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Google's 20-Year Usenet Timeline

theRG writes "Google just released its 20-Year Usenet Timeline. Among the highlights: First Mac rumor, first 'me too' post, Tim Berners-Lee's announcement of the Web, and Linus' announcement of Linux."

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  1. This has been around for a while... by kaden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Heh, this was reported on Slashdot over ago...

  2. Such a nice young man by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm also interested in hearing from anybody who has written any of the
    utilities/library functions for minix. If your efforts are freely
    distributable (under copyright or even public domain), I'd like to hear
    from you, so I can add them to the system. I'm using Earl Chews estdio
    right now (thanks for a nice and working system Earl), and similar works
    will be very wellcome. Your (C)'s will of course be left intact. Drop me
    a line if you are willing to let me use your code.

    It's no accident that Linux was such an pleasant project to hack on way back when, Linus is just such a humble and polite person. He still is today. What ever happened to that? These days you're lucky to get a reply to an email when offering to contribute code to an open source project, let alone someone actually thanking you for going to the effort of making something for others to enjoy.

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    1. Re:Such a nice young man by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 4, Insightful
      These days you're lucky to get a reply to an email when offering to contribute code to an open source project, let alone someone actually thanking you for going to the effort of making something for others to enjoy.
      You do still get nice responses those but at a guess I'd think people are more likely to face email overload today. It's not that people themselves are rude as such, they just get more email than they can cope with satisfactorally.

      A good friend of mine works on Linux and it's scary watching him open his mailbox. We're best mates and I don't often get timely responses to emails I send him!

      His email is at least fairly focused. I imagine people who work on things that are more user facing (GNOME, KDE etc) must get a whole lot of stuff coming their way...
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  3. Re:My prediction for the near future. by dougmc · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Google drops Usenet.
    Google paid good money for Usenet. (Or, more specifically, for the archive from Dejanews.)

    Granted, they seem to be doing bad things with it (the groups-beta thing really kinda bites), but I don't see them ditching it -- it fits in very well with their key business (searching), and I doubt it costs them much money (compared to their web search, for example) to keep going.

    And it's useful -- when looking for answers to technical issues (like `I got *this* error. How do I fix it?', searching Usenet is often more useful than the web.

  4. Re:A giggle-inducer by Galvatron · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...And having it be so terrible that we've lost interest?


    Seriously, I wish we could go back in time and tell him not to look forward to it too much...

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  5. Re:Er... by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Insightful
    google could be a bit more PC, the sponsored links at the first 9/11 postings are...

    The posts are about aircraft, so are the ads. You don't think there are clerks manually selecting the ads for every search you do, do you?

  6. Re:Hurd by Deusy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps it would have been if Linus and Linux hadn't shown up?

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  7. Re:The new google groups by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Insightful
    wonder if a balance can be achieved between email harvesting and protecting the original documents.

    It's moronic to hide them in Google's interface when any spammer interested can harvest them directly from a newsfeed. Google still forces you to use an active address when registering to post, and the spammers do harvest that, regardless that's it's munged in Google's interface. And I rather doubt spammers really want a bunch of 20-year-old addresses -- and if anyone is still at the same address that long they're already on every list.

  8. It may take a disaster to learn from the mistakes. by jbn-o · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I actually miss the early Dejanews interface and search capabilities. It had some arcane limitations, but it was more expressive than what I can do with Google.

    And I don't see evidence that people have largely learned the lesson from when Dejanews went away and Google had not yet brought up Deja's database -- the lesson being that Usenet is of value and Usenet article collections need to be mirrored and kept up to date by multiple independent administrators. Placing all of those metaphorical eggs in one basket is very risky. Doubly ironic when one considers that decentralization is one of the hallmarks of netnews. With all the bright people thinking up ways to host mirrors of files in varied places in P2P networks, I would have imagined someone would have done so for Usenet articles by now.

  9. Re:Linus by BoneFlower · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Microkernels still have a performance disadvantage and some greater complexity in designing. They certainly have advantages, but they aren't clearly superior on the whole.

    The best approach for the real world seems to be a hybrid design, either adding monolithic elements to a micokernel design, such as in OSX and NT, or adding some microkernel concepts to a monolithic kernel, such as the module system added to Linux. Either approach will have some of the key benefits of a microkernel design without sacrificing much, if any, of the performance of a monolithic kernel.