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Imagining Titan

Neil Halelamien writes "Recently the Planetary Society released the winning entries of their Huygens Art Contest. The contest challenged contestants to create artwork depicting what they imagine the ESA's Huygens probe will find when it descends to Titan's surface. 435 people from 35 countries entered the contest, and several of the winning images look like they would make great desktop backgrounds. The Huygens encounter with Titan is due for January 14 (Friday), but it looks like there isn't any live coverage planned of this exciting event."

25 comments

  1. #1? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    titania

  2. If we're very, very lucky... by FuturePastNow · · Score: 1

    we'll get an actual image of Saturn rising over the horizon. It would grace the desktops of a million geeks.

    What kind of cameras does Huygens have? What are the odds of an actual picture like that being taken?

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    1. Re:If we're very, very lucky... by oni · · Score: 1

      we'll get an actual image of Saturn rising over the horizon.

      Well, Titan is tidally locked, so Saturn does not rise or set. It just hangs in the sky. If NASA picked a spot on the Saturn-facing side of the planet, then it might be possible to get Saturn in frame, if NASA didn't pick such a spot, then forget it.

    2. Re:If we're very, very lucky... by tubeguy · · Score: 1

      Actually you would not be able to see Saturn through Titan's atmosphere. Apparently only one person knew that, Ron Miller:

      planetary.org/saturn/contest/ron_miller_1024.jpg

    3. Re:If we're very, very lucky... by pedroloco · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Huygens probe's landing site will be near 10.9 S, 169 E (191 W). (There is uncertainty as to the exact landing site since atmospheric winds that could blow the probe around are not well known.) This is on the side of Titan facing away from Saturn, so there will be no poetic images (or any other kind of image) taken of Saturn by Huygens.

      Click here for information about the cameras.

    4. Re:If we're very, very lucky... by klui · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The grand prize winner seemed to know this, too.

    5. Re:If we're very, very lucky... by FuturePastNow · · Score: 1

      Well, thanks to everyone for setting that straight. Should have paid more attention in Astronomy class ;)

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  3. Orientation of Saturn by oni · · Score: 2, Informative

    Judging by the orientation of Saturn's rings, all of those images show the probe landing near one of Titan's poles. I thought it was going to land closer to the equator - in that case, Saturn's rings would be straight up and down.

    1. Re:Orientation of Saturn by Ayaress · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm guessing the people who made those pictures are artists first and scientists second. Most of the pictures you see from NASA or in books of Saturn show the rings oriented nearly horizontal and tilted slightly towards the point of view. It isn't suprising that art depicting Saturn would do much the same. If you wanted to hit them up for scientific realism, Saturn shouldn't be visible in the pictures anyway, since as others have posted, the probe is going to enter on the far side of Titan from Saturn, and the atmosphere would obsucre it anyway.

    2. Re:Orientation of Saturn by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Judging by the orientation of Saturn's rings, all of those images show the probe landing near one of Titan's poles. I thought it was going to land closer to the equator - in that case, Saturn's rings would be straight up and down.

      Even if landing near the equator, it is still possible to have Saturn low in the sky, in essence a "Saturn set", just like one can still see a moon-set at the equator here. I don't know the orientation of this particular mission, but being near the equator alone does not rule out a low Saturn.

  4. Sirens of Titan? by hughk · · Score: 1
    At least one of the entries used this as a title but I didn't see any great danes in the picture? I'm still looking forward to Friday.

    Obscure Kurt Vonnegut reference

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    1. Re:Sirens of Titan? by DjReagan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Coincidentally, that is the book I'm currently reading.

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    2. Re:Sirens of Titan? by hughk · · Score: 1

      It is rather surreal and perhaps not strictly SF, but the idea of existance as a waveform makes it interesting.

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  5. Live coverage by Ayaress · · Score: 1

    It's unfortunate there won't be any, but if they did have live coverage, it wouldn't be very impressive for all but the most hardcore geeks.

    I remember watching the coverage from the Mars landings, and they're not that exciting. They might get some attention during the first few minutes, but by an hour into it when the most exciting thing you heard was, "Attitude adjustment in five minutes..." and then "Attitude adjustment green." after five minutes of silence, your audience is gone. I wonder if the people in the control room even get that excited, knowing that by the time they get busy, the cards have already been pretty much dealt an hour earlier, and there's not enough time to correct anything that goes wrong.

    I'd rather read the summaries after the fact, myself. The information they collect doesn't say anything I can understand until after they've been processed, anyway.

    1. Re:Live coverage by ArmedLemming · · Score: 1
      I believe that one of the reasons for not having live coverage is to be able to screen anything unexplainable from the public until they've had time to process it.

      Imagine if we got another 'Face on Mars' controversy or some streak in a frame of one of the pictures that came back.

      It's almost the same thing as delaying live TV shows in case another wardrobe malfunction occurs...

      Delaying coverage just makes sense though personally I'd like to see live coverage...

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    2. Re:Live coverage by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      You must've gotten on early and left. I tried to get on in the middle (just got out of class) and they had maxed out the allowed connections on the web stream. It's too bad they don't have the bandwidth or memory to handle video, because that would, at least for a short bit, be really interesting.

    3. Re:Live coverage by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I believe that one of the reasons for not having live coverage is to be able to screen anything unexplainable from the public until they've had time to process it....Imagine if we got another 'Face on Mars' controversy or...another wardrobe malfunction occurs...

      If a Titanian woman bears all 7 of her green breasts, and they keep that from us, I am gonna be awfully pissed.

      It would really be cool if they saw a sign that read, "Fuck Earth!". If they sensor that I will kick them in the Euroballs.

  6. Home Schooled by Bob_Robertson · · Score: 2, Informative

    The grand prize winner is home-schooled. Another demonstration of what getting out of the government prison camps can do.

    Brava, Miss Tylor. And many thanks to the rest of the entrants, I have a couple new wallpapers!

    Bob-

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  7. that bit @ the end was wrong.. by npfscayle · · Score: 1, Informative
    "The Huygens encounter with Titan is due for January 14 (Friday), but it looks like there isn't any live coverage planned of this exciting event."

    Ummm..wrong... Try the Discovery Science channel on 1/14/05 @ 9pm EST

    .....mod this up yours.....

  8. The cg one by iamlucky13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't like to compare computer modeled art to handmade, but the one that held my attention the most was Titan Sunset, which showed the sun behind Saturn's rings look out over a Titan shoreline. Totally unrealistic I know, but imagine if it actually were possible to look up in the morning and see Saturn hanging overhead with it's rings shining in the sunbeam's.

  9. Live coverage on NASA TV on Friday by FleaPlus · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hi, I'm the person who made the submission. Since making the submission, it's come to my attention that there will indeed be at least some sort of live coverage on NASA TV -- I suspect the article I linked to may be in error.

    From the NASA TV schedule:

    January 14, Friday
    3 a.m. - 3:30 a.m. - Live Coverage and Commentary "Cassini Turns Towards Titan - Interruption of Radio Contact" - JPL/ESA
    5 a.m. - 6 a.m. - Live Coverage and Commentary "The Huygens Probe Enters the Atmosphere of Titan" - JPL/ESA
    7:30 a.m. - 8 a.m. - ESA News Briefing "Mission Status" - JPL/ESA
    8:30 a.m. - 9:15 a.m. - ESA Commentary on Huygens Probe Mission - JPL/ESA (Mission Coverage)
    10 a.m. - 10:30 a.m. - ESA Commentary "Cassini Turns Back to Earth - Data Transmission Begins" - JPL/ESA
    11:15 a.m. - 12:15 p.m. - Huygens Probe News Briefing (will confirm if we are receiving data from Huygens via relay by Cassini)
    1 p.m. - NASA Update with Sean O'Keefe - KSC
    5 p.m. - 6 p.m. - ESA Commentary and "Presentation of First Triplet Image of/data from Titan" - JPL/ESA

    1. Re:Live coverage on NASA TV on Friday by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      Thank you! Now it remains to be seen if the viruses on our campus will quit hogging internal bandwidth long enough for me to get a good external connection.

  10. Planetary Society event on Thursday in Pasadena by FleaPlus · · Score: 1

    [I just got this in my email]

    Planetary Society Event:
    Get Ready for a New Moon Landing!

    Huygens Arrives at Titan, sponsored by The Planetary Society

    Date: Thursday, January 13, 2005

    Time: 6:30-9:30 p.m.

    Description: Join The Planetary Society the night before Huygens' historic plunge into Titan's atmosphere for a look at that mission as well as a Voyager retrospective, a lively discussion of Saturn's place in the popular imagination, a Cassini overview and a live update from Huygens mission control in Germany.

    Speakers:
    * former JPL Director Ed Stone
    * actor Robert Picardo, Star Trek Voyager [i.e. "The Doctor" from Voyager]
    * Bill Nye the Science Guy
    * Huygens engineer Shaun Standley
    * Cassini Deputy Project Scientist Linda Spilker
    * Planetary Society President Wes Huntress
    * and more

    Location: Pasadena Hilton, 150 S Los Robles, Pasadena, CA

    Tickets: $10 for Students, $12 for Planetary Society Members and members of the Skeptics Society, and $15 General Admission. Tickets can be obtained at 626-793-5100, planetary.org/exploringtitan.html, or at the door.

    1. Re:Planetary Society event on Thursday in Pasadena by niko414 · · Score: 1

      The Planetary Society will also begin blogging from Huygens Mission control in Darmstadt Germany. Look for a link on their homepage later today.