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Novell to port Evolution to Windows

Gladiat0r writes "Nat Friedman blogged on Planet Gnome today that Novell has hired Tor Lillqvist (of Gimp for Windows fame) to help Fredrik Hedberg port Beagle to Windows, and after that his main task is to port Evolution to Windows."

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  1. GroupWise mail support by Lindsay+Lohan · · Score: 5, Informative
    Novell has hired Tor Lillqvist... to port Beagle to Windows, and after that.. to port Evolution to Windows
    I found Novell's Evolution Product page interesting for this line:
    Supported mail protocols include IMAP, POP, SMTP and Authenticated SMTP, as well as Microsoft Exchange 2000 and 2003. Novell GroupWise support is currently in beta
    That suprised me. You'd think before they ported Evolution to Windows they would have finalized integration with their own groupware suite.
    1. Re:GroupWise mail support by Xibby · · Score: 2, Informative

      I may be way off, but I believe that Evolution had Exchange support before Novell bought Ximian. When you think of it that way, it would've made sense for Ximian to support one of the biggest email servers early on.

      You're not way off, this is correct. Evolution "supported" Exchange by sucking in the exchange data via Outlook Web Access 2000 or 2003. I would imagine that it still does Exchange in this fashion, and why not? Outlook 2003 now supports doing the same thing. Interesting how that works.

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    2. Re:GroupWise mail support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It partially works if you get the dev branch and use GW 6.5.3 with the /devsoap-enabled switch

      Full support won't come until GW Sequoia.

    3. Re:GroupWise mail support by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, and they can have two priorities at once, and I doubt that the Windows port is going to block the GroupWise project.

      Plus, the GroupWise support is in beta testing, wheras the Windows port is still in the planning phases (according to Nat's blog).

  2. The actual announcement by Anonymous+Commando · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seeing as how the submitter neglected to link to the actual announcement, here it is: http://nat.org/2005/january/#17-January-2005

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  3. Re:what is evolution? by Lindsay+Lohan · · Score: 3, Informative
    Maybe a sentence about Evolution would be nice.. or at least a link to a webpage about it
    Here it is.
  4. Re:How nice... by kenneth_martens · · Score: 5, Informative
    Sure, take all the nice Linux applications over to Windows...don't worry about porting the nice Windows apps over to Linux though. Nope, we're fine...We'll just run them at half speed with WINE or something...
    Don't complain--be happy. If enough high-quality cross-platform applications are available on Windows, eventually people will wise up. They'll think: "Hey, I'm using Evolution for email, Firefox for web browsing, Gaim for instant messaging, and OpenOffice for all my documents. I could switch from Windows to Linux and never know the difference."

    And if that person is a responsible for an IT department that is currently negotiating to buy a site license for the latest version of Windows, well, suddenly Linux will look mighty attractive. A budget goes a lot further when you're not paying for Windows.
  5. Re:great news by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Informative

    No.
    Odds are pretty good that migration is an on going process. It is very hard to move "everything" at once to a new platform. One of the reasons that Windows did so well was that it ran dos apps.
    A company that is thinking of moving will want to do it a step at a time.
    I know my company is trying to do it now. Oh how people complained when we made them dump outlook for Thunderbird. Not to mention how some complained about using OpenOffice because it did not work EXACTLY like word.

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  6. Re:This is great by Synn · · Score: 2, Informative

    Evolution is free. It uses OWA to connect to the exchange server so whatever licensing you need for that still applies though.

  7. Re:Good news for Linux? by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anything that Access can do can be done better for free with MySQL

    Access the database may suck, but Access the GUI client is pretty nice. Sometimes people don't care about referential integrity, they just want an easy to use tool for organizing data, but want something better then a spreadsheet.

    The GUI clients for MySQL are lacking ... I'm still confused what cheap/free GUI clients are available for MySQL since MySQL.com abandonded their MySQLGUI project.

    When you're creating relations between tables, a graphical table editor and a GUI that lays everything out for you is pretty nice and takes away alot of the eliteness of the DB world. I can get a moderately experienced office worker setup with Access very quickly, but using MySQL requires more experience.

  8. Re:GroupWise mail support on the server by bayerwerke · · Score: 2, Informative

    The beta part is having Evolution connect to a Groupwise server, which is rather unlike servers that Evolution was originally intended to connect to. If you are running Linux and want to connect to a Groupwise server you can use Groupwise client for Linux. Groupwise server supports the Outlook client so what it appears they may be actually doing is making a transition of the groupware client from Groupwise while retaining the server component, cross-platform. It would be a lovely thing indeed. Novell server products tend to be excellent. Client products like the Groupwise client historically blows dogs.

  9. For those who don't know (like me)... by Txiasaeia · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...what the heck Evolution is, you can find more info on it here, but it's basically an email/address book/calendar program, a la Outlook, for Gnome. A link in the article itself might have helped, especially since Novell seems to be targetting Windows users like me, who also (coincidentally?) haven't heard of the program.

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  10. Re:Good news for Linux? by Paul+d'Aoust · · Score: 3, Informative

    DBDesigner4 is an open-source database designer for MySQL. It's not really a replacement for Access, as it doesn't have a form designer for non-techies to enter records. But for all the fancy stuff like designing databases and forming queries, it's beautiful. My one beef is that it depends on Kylix, and as such I still can't compile it in Ubuntu. Worked great in Gentoo though.

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  11. Re:Good news for GTK+ on Win32 by Moderator · · Score: 1, Informative

    There are unofficial free Windows builds available here.

    It's such a shame that the official Windows builds cost money. Some of us can't change what OS we use.

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  12. Re:Good news for Linux? by rastos1 · · Score: 2, Informative
    It's a whole hell of a lot faster in Access than trying to get a damn word processor to do it for you if you're using a Linux-based solution.

    Ever tried that? I did. I went to OO Writer document and picked Data Sources from menu. And I was able to connect to various types of databases, create queries and include fields into the document.

    The only 'difficult' part was to make sure that my system knows what ODBC is - and that is because I wanted to get data from SQL database and I never needed it before and thus I did not have ODBC installed.

  13. Re:Good news for GTK+ on Win32 by schumaml · · Score: 2, Informative

    I always found GTK+ to be much faster on Win32 than on other platforms. For the look, there is a theme engine (MSEngine afaik, formerly known as gtk-wimp).

    The feel is probably the only part where noticeable differences can still be found, in particular with the file chooser. Not the fact that there is no file entry, but e.g. the (non-)handling of UNC paths (got some fixes recently) and problems with .lnk files ("symlinks" on Win32).