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.net Domain Up For Grabs

belmolis writes " The New York Times is reporting that the bidding is on for the .net domain currently administered by VeriSign. VeriSign's current contract expires June 30th; applications are due today. Three companies are known to be interested: NeuStar, which currently manages .biz, Afilias, which manages .info, and Denic eG, a non-profit that manages the German .de domain. ICANN is bending over backward to avoid any suggestion of bias due to its conflict with VeriSign over VeriSign's Site Finder "service" and has appointed an independent team to evaluate the applications. VeriSign has been lobbying hard to keep the domain and is reported to have received letters of support from Microsoft and IBM."

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  1. lets hope not by teh_mykel · · Score: 5, Funny

    lets hope microsoft doesnt aquire .net domains, only to confuse the term further.

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  2. Just not verisign by digitalgimpus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When the get to much power they take advantage (sitefinder). IMHO when a company has poor ethics, they like to show it.

    They showed us their ethics... we can do better. Lets look at other companies.

    1. Re:Just not verisign by leonmergen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They showed us their ethics... we can do better. Lets look at other companies.

      The .net registration right is up for bid... not vote. It's not like we have a choice over who's going to get the rights, it's who pays most.

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    2. Re:Just not verisign by gowen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, given the number of scammers that use .biz and .info websites to phish for bank account details (and how far from their designed roles .biz and .info have drifted), I don't think the alternatives are terribly ethically sound either,

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  3. To make a lot of money... by Message+Board · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just put the authority to the .net tld on ebay. This would raise millions, possibly billions for ICANN - as the new owner could take ownership of every single .net domain... or raise the price to very high levels. If panix.net thinks its situation is bad, what will they think when the new owner of the .net domain asks for $10000/year for a registration... Or makes google.net install spyware...

  4. Re:If VeriSign wants to keep it by StevenHenderson · · Score: 4, Interesting
    With the twin bastions of evil that are of MS and IBM behind them, I'm sure they can't lose.

    Wait, IBM is evil now? What about the patents that they are opening up to spur innovation? What about the vast funds that they pour into OSS? Just because a company is big, it does not necessarily make them evil.

    I like to think of IBM as a very "Apple-esque" company - putting out good products and encouraging innovation at all opportunities...

  5. Letters of Support by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Big Deal.... Take those letters and shove them. Using those letters, regardless of where they came from, would cause and/or swing the bias. If an independent group is making the decision, let them do independent research to decide.

    People need to get off this "because Microsoft, IBM, AOL, etc. said it, so now I'll believe it" mentality and start thinking for themselves. For example, I like Linux. Not because Linus said so, but because I did my own research and found it to be what I feel I need.

  6. Wait... I missed it... by Kierthos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When exactly did ICANN care about appearing impartial?

    Why can't they just tell VeriSign something along the lines of "You fucked up. You thought you were all bad and shit. We're taking it away from you." and just let the other three companies mentioned bid for it and shut VeriSign out of the .net domain?

    Kierthos

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  7. Whatever by Staplerh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This made me roll my eyes, and I hope I wasn't alone. This quote:

    VeriSign has been lobbying hard to keep the domain and is reported to have received letters of support from Microsoft and IBM.

    Hah! Woopty-doo, hopefully this doesn't matter and there is some legitimacy in the bidding process. I'm not an anti-Microsoft crusader (although I did ditch Windows), but come now . . . unless they're willing to throw their money behind VeriSign (as opposed to a letter), they should simply STFU. From the NYT article:

    But later this month, the system's underpinnings will become a topic of debate when rival companies publicly bid to run .net, one of the Internet's most popular domains.

    It is rather disturbing at a base level that a company controls the domain. I know VeriSign runs .com but still... I will admit ignorance in these matters, but it's weird to think that a coroporation would run the .net domain - which, as the article points out, is responsible for a vast array of sites - including "About 40 percent of government domains allow access through .net, including the White House, the United States Senate, Homeland Security agencies and the Social Security Administration, making it a vital Internet transportation layer, said Tom Galvin, a spokesman for VeriSign."

    So weird.. WHY does VeriSign want .net - what advantages does this convey on them?

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  8. Open it! by Nastard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why not turn it over to the open-source community and let the experts take care of it? I'm sure they could provide a much better system than Verisign, more accountability, and much lower cost.

    Calm down, I'm kidding.

  9. Thanks for the advance notice by Se7enLC · · Score: 3, Funny

    > applications are due today.

    I think Adam Sandler says it best: "This information could have been brought To My Attention YESTERDAY!"

  10. Starting a pool... by ari_j · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm starting a pool. Paypal me your support so we can put a solid bid in on this. It's for the consortium, and you all have a share. ;)

  11. Speaking of ethics... by nharmon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    [i]Help me, get a free [freeminimacs.com] mini mac.[/i]

    Call me crazy, but you don't see a problem with talking about ethics, and advertising some ipod/minimac pyramid scheme at the same time?

    I say that for now on, we pledge to never mod up people with this bullcrap in their sigs.

  12. Sorry... by sepluv · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why exactly can't ICANN take into account the fact that Verisign broke their last contract (in a way that screwed around with the whole Internet and made Verisign lots of $$$) when deciding whether to give them the next contract? What do they decide the contract on then?

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  13. Afilias uses PostgreSQL by bmomjian · · Score: 3, Informative

    Afilias uses PostgreSQL, so now we know who the Slashdot croud should be rooting for. See the last paragraph:

    http://www.active-domain.com/news/2002sep-5.htm

    In fact there is a seminar at Afilias starting tomorrow to plan a new multi-master replication solution for PostgreSQL, so they are very involved with open source.

  14. Re:Well... by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This astounds me.

    Having used four or five registrars myself (Register.com, GoDaddy, Dotster, and Network Solutions/Verisign) - and working with a few others that my clients have used - I have never found a registrar with better service than Network Solutions. I can talk to a real person and rarely ever have a problem that can't be resolved within an hour of reporting it.

    I had to wait three weeks for another registrar to resolve issues which should have been done within minutes. I'm not thrilled about the lax policies on domain hijacking (as we've read about recently) but those aren't limited to just Verisign.

    Despite their SiteFinder crap, I'm happy to pay $35/year for the best service, tools, etc. If someone can point me in the direction of something better, I'd be open to switching. But in the five or six years that I've been managing domains, this is the best I've found.

  15. VeriSign gets in trouble regularly by iabervon · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article mentions SiteFinder, but before that VeriSign was sent fraudulent email to owners of domains registered through other registrars, and just this weekend they transferred panix.com (registered through a different registrar) to a hijacker. Considering the way the seem to have blown off both the rightful owner of the domain and law enforcement, I think it would be appropriate to take into account the possibility that VeriSign will be convicted of computer crimes and banned from computers by court order within the period of this contract when deciding whether to give it to them.