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eXeem Lite Public Beta Released

TheKarateMaster writes "Just days after the release of eXeem Open Beta comes eXeem lite 0.19 Public Beta. Much like with KaZaA, the official version of eXeem comes chock full of spy/adware -- specifically, cydoor. eXeem lite is spyware free and free of bloat -- and free. Version .20, which should fix a few minor bugs, is expected 'in next coming days.' (read: soon)"

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  1. Good news for the computer savvy by sjrstory · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Whilst this is excellent news indeed, I fear only the so called "computer savvy" will reap the benefits of this (ie no spyware). There are a lot of people out there who seemingly click at random through the World Wide Wreckage, completely and utterly naive of the dangers they face. And there are others who just can't be bothered to protect themself from spyware, data loss, scams, identity theft, etc.

    Does this sound familiar:

    Clueless user: Hrm, that looks like a good idea. Click. Install. Now why is my computer slow and always crashing? Better call my tech boy genius neighbor!

    Tech boy genius neighbor: OMFG what did you do!?

    I commend the software venders that do their best to protect those who need protecting the most. Even Microsoft is looking into integrating Spyware search and destroy tools into Windows. It pays to get with the times!

    1. Re:Good news for the computer savvy by Uber+Banker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Mentioning mindless clicking and downloading - the story takes you to a website where the eXeemLite software just downloads.

      WTF? Computer savvy?

      Download a cracked version of some shadowy software - and trust that its 100% legit??? Why not publish MD5 sum of the package which can be verified by expert users willing to take the plunge?

      Plus, has anyone tried this on WINE?

  2. Azureus Plugin for Exeem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Somebody please write an Azureus plugin for Exeem!

    1. Re:Azureus Plugin for Exeem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      For the few of you you havnt heard of azureus, its an excelent and cross platform java bittorrent client. Very feature full.

      So Azureus is excellent, cross platform and fature full. Whereas eXeem is Windows only and full of spyware. Why exactly would you want to combine them?

  3. Re:I thought.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To be fair, they kind of screw themselves over asking for donations, given that their users are exactly the people too cheap to pay for music/tv/games/whatever.

  4. So... by slavemowgli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How long until the eXeem makers either sue or try to ban lite users from the network?

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  5. A shame original bittorrent didn't use GPL by xDCDx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If only Bram Cohen would had licensed the original bittorrent under the GPL (rather than the MITL), people would not be able to profit so easily from his work.

    Granted, the trackerless protocol surely took some work, but the base BT protocol (and its implementation) was the revolutionary thing.

    I hate companies providing adware software like Kazaa or Exeem, that promise you heaven on earth, and actually offer subpar programs, that would have much more quality as an opensource project (see eDonkey vs eMule).

    1. Re:A shame original bittorrent didn't use GPL by legirons · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "If only Bram Cohen would had licensed the original bittorrent under the GPL (rather than the MITL), people would not be able to profit so easily from his work."

      Presumably it's not the profit which is the problem, so much as the creation of non-Free software which is competing in an an unfair* way with the original.

      *unfair as in, one project can take freely from the other, but not vice-versa.

      But we all already knew this right? It's not like RMS warned us in 1985 about the problems with non-GPL licenses...

    2. Re:A shame original bittorrent didn't use GPL by stienman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If only Bram Cohen would had licensed the original bittorrent under the GPL (rather than the MITL), people would not be able to profit so easily from his work.

      And we wouldn't have exeem. Unless, of course, you can point out an open source solution that provides the same (and better, according to you) features compared to exeem?

      Don't you hate it when people complain about the GPL restricting their free use of software? You are complaining about another person's use of a license.

      When you release your software, you get to choose the license. Don't complain about another author's choice of license. I want other people to use my software, even to make money off it. Therefore I use the BSD license. We have philisophical and political differences, but that doesn't make my choice bad and your choice good. In my case, I don't want to force others to give back to the 'community' - I let them choose how they contribute (or if) to society. The GPL preference is to tell people, "Use my software and you have to release all your efforts - if not, I'm taking my toys and going home."

      Sarcasm aside, each has its advantages and disadvantages. I suspect many choose the GPL not because they have an altruistic desire to further society. Many release it for the reasons you imply when you say, "people would not be able to profit so easily from his work." They don't want other people profiting off their work. "If I can't or didn't make money off it, neither can you." Which, I feel, is a very different goal than the claimed altruism of the GPL.

      I don't mean to imply that most people have this in mind when choosing a license, but I've seen this side of the license debate more than I care to.

      -Adam

    3. Re:A shame original bittorrent didn't use GPL by xDCDx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You made a good point.

      Exeem opensource alternative: http://kenosis.sourceforge.net/. Probably needs more work, more recognition and a slightly nicer website (well, and a license, it does not seem to have one).

      If I make some useful piece of software in my spare time, I would not care that some John Doe would profit from it, or even that companies like Google would profit from it; but I wouldn't stand companies like Microsoft, Kazaa or Exeem earning money from it. So it has to be everyone or no one (that is, the GPL).

      Yes, I know I have biased prejuices against (most) corporations, but when I, for example, visit the websites of the three companies I named, a voice in my head tells me: these companies don't do things with good heart, they only do things for the shake of winning money, and don't care about the happyness of the user.

      On the other hands I perceive the Mozilla Foundation (not profiting) or Google (profiting) as two companies that truly try to offer useful things and care about the user.

      I know everybody has to work for a living, but if nobody would do things for the shake of doing useful things, or for the shake of research, open source software would not exist at all.

      My philosophy is, do something because you truly think it is useful for people, profiting from it or not, but not make something just for profit. That is why I lobby for the GPL, against software patents, etc.

      "If I can't or didn't make money off it, neither can you."

      Probably many people think this, but I hope you saw how my view is different from this.

    4. Re:A shame original bittorrent didn't use GPL by Knights+who+say+'INT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, but the GPL allows you to go dual-license. Qt does that; you can use Qt as GPL'ed software and be obligated to release all your efforts, or you can buy a commercial license and keep your code improvements to yourself.

      "You can (1) repay me with money or (2) repay releasing your improvements to the community. Your choice."

      Sometimes people like to eat.

    5. Re:A shame original bittorrent didn't use GPL by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think that claiming ownership of the protocol and then saying that the protocol was liscensed freely for use in GPL'd programs would be exactly in the spirit of the GPL.

      Protocols are ideas; they can't be copyrighted, but they can be patented or trade-secreted. If a GPL program is the first to implement an unpatented protocol, then there's nothing prohibiting a reimplementation in a BSD licensed program or a proprietary program.

  6. If you hate the spyware, why support the network? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If it's because you want to take advantage of the # of users, have you considered that they are primarily the type of users that install spyware-ridden software on their PCs? Is that the type of user community you want to get files from, and share with?

    What good reason is there to use eXeem? If you want to use a popular program that a lot of people use, what problem does eXeem solve that Kazaa doesn't?

    Is eXeem supposed to be considered the second coming strictly because Suprnova shut down? Anybody who relied strictly on Suprnova for torrents was a fool, anyway, considering the wake of Napster and the obvious fate of any popular centralized source of illicit IP.

    If you like the BitTorrent system... keep using it, eXeem offers no real advantages. If you have no integrity or circumspectness whatsoever, then just use Kazaa. I don't see what niche eXeem fills.

  7. Re:eXeem Lite is useless as much as eXeem is by DrunkenTerror · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To Lepaca:
    I don't understand your point, Lepaca. I just used the lite version to dl a nice PDF version of the Kama Sutra. How is eXeem or eXeemLite useless? Why is taking a decent program riddled with spyware (eXeem, KaZaA) and hacking out the spyware (lite versions), therefore improving the base program, not a valid endeavor?

    To the anti-p2p crowd:
    You people make me sick. You know in your heart-of-hearts that there's plenty of legitimate uses for this technology, and yet you still try to paint p2p users with the broad brush of illegality. Go bust the kids trading Brittney tracks! Leave us the tools to easily distribute legitimate large files (Linux distros, Project Gutenberg archives, etc), you dark-minded fucks.

  8. Not FOSS by offerk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    eXeem lite is spyware free and free of bloat -- and free

    This isn't Free (libre) software, so while it is nice that it doesn't cost anything, neither does the official eXeem, so it is not better in that respect.

    As for the claim that the official version comes with spyware and that this "lite" version doesn't - several posters have already said they couldn't find any spyware after installing eXeem.
    As for eXeem-lite, if I can't see the source, why should I believe the site that claims it is spyware-free? Because the say so?

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  9. Uhm... Why do they bother with eXeem at all? by vitalyb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure, it is much HYPED app. But I've yet to hear about how great it actually is. Who even said it will catch and deliver? Why eXeem lite and not X lite, when X can be any ad-sponsored program on ZeroPaid?

    And while we on it. Why so many Slashdot articles on this? Promote it when eXeem is worth it.

  10. Re:eXeem Lite is useless as much as eXeem is by ahertz · · Score: 3, Insightful
    To the anti-p2p crowd:
    You people make me sick. You know in your heart-of-hearts that there's plenty of legitimate uses for this technology, and yet you still try to paint p2p users with the broad brush of illegality. Go bust the kids trading Brittney tracks! Leave us the tools to easily distribute legitimate large files (Linux distros, Project Gutenberg archives, etc), you dark-minded fucks.

    I'm sympathetic to your point, but this seems to be the wrong discussion to be making it in. Check out clause 7.b. of the eXeem license agreement. Users of the software agree not to redistribute or modify it. What are the people who made eXeem lite doing? Redistributing a modified version. Even if you use the software only to distribute 100% legitimate, public domain or freely redistributable stuff, you're still commiting copyright infringement by using eXeem Lite!
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    Information doesn't want to be anthropomorphized. -AC
  11. Re:Easy fix by illumin8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Easy fix, easyer than DLing and maintaining a differant client...

    Delete files in c:\windows\system32\AdCache

    Set all user permissions on folder c:\windows\system32\AdCache to deny (no access)

    block/deny:
    *cydoor.com/*
    *cms.com/*

    It doesn't complain if the ads are not comming in, it just throws them up :)


    Although I appreciate the information, I'd just as soon not have the spyware installed on my computer in the first place. Unless you've sat there with a debugger and stepped through Cydoor one instruction at a time, how do you know it doesn't stick copies of itself somewhere else, or trojan another binary along the way? These spyware programs are notorious for nasty tricks like that.

    Also, I remember reading in the previous article that uninstalling Cydoor causes Exeem to stop working, so you're still better off using the Lite client.

    Please don't support spyware or authors that include spyware in their products. There are better ways to make money, and decent programmers can simply use Paypal or some other method of donationware to make a buck, while still delivering value (and most importantly goodwill) to their users.

    My guess is the real reason why they're funding this using Adware is that the original Suprnova was mostly funded by banner ads, and they still need a revenue stream. Of course, now the editors are no longer screening content, so what they bring to the table (besides the application) is not as much.

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    "When the president does it, that means it's not illegal." - Richard M. Nixon
  12. Ban users from the network ? Implications... by Animaether · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wait... if they have the ability to 'ban (lite) users from the network', then they have the ability to 'ban individuals engaging in the act of distributing copyrighted works without prior permission to do so'.

    Which means that they would become a prime target for whichever media copyright maintenance agency applies to them.

    Unless I'm missing something.

  13. eXeem is NOT related to Bittorrent in any way! by Jagasian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    eXeem is NOT related to Bittorrent in any way. It does not use the Bittorrent protocol nor an extension of it. It is yet another P2P application/network that is trying to captilize on an already popular application/network/protocol. Considering that it is closed source, Windows only, spyware stricken, and leeching off of Bittorrent's popularity, it would be wise to boycott eXeem.

    If you want to use a P2P application that combines the swarming of Bittorrent with distributed indexing, searching, and tracking, try one of the eDonkey apps such as aMule, eMule, eDonkey2000, etc. Many of them are open source, spyware free, and run on multiple platforms. Since the eDonkey network has been around for a long time, it is filled with a variety of content. However, Bittorrent is still the fastest P2P protocol for raw data transfer, so don't drop it, just find a few good torrent sites.

  14. It's NOT free.. by sudog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ..until I can recompile it myself.