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Cloudscape Gains Momentum

Posted by Hemos on from the ibms-big-move dept.

A reader writes: "There's been a lot of bits written recently about the growth of Open Source databases; as well as IBM's patent gift, as their release of the Java database Cloudscape. There's a contest running on SourceForge.net around Cloudscape; download and run with it." SF.net is part of OSTG, like Slashdot.

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  1. Java database ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny


    wouldn't it be quicker to print your data on paper and sort it by hand ?

    1. Re:Java database ? by Eric+Giguere · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hey, I like Java as much as anyone, but if you're looking for a fast, multi-platform, zero-administration database be sure to check out SQL Anywhere Studio. The Developer Edition is completely free and runs on Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X, Netware and most flavors of Windows, including CE/PocketPC. See the description of what's in SQL Anywhere Studio for details. (Note that some of you may remember SQL Anywhere as Watcom SQL.)

      Eric
      Listen, folks: JavaScript is NOT Java!
  2. I've written a review of this by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 5, Informative

    As it happens I've already written a review of cloudscape; the google cache of it is here.

    Brief summary: get the Apache version; reasonably full SQL92 syntax; performance OK; a bit lacking on security.

    --
    I'm old enough to remember when discussions on Slashdot were well informed.
  3. Re:Wrong language, wrong thing. by EkkiEkkiShiwaddle · · Score: 5, Informative
    There are lots of things that Java is perfectly suited for. Databases are not one of those things.

    I'm a Java developer, and have been almost from the very start of Java. While I tend to agree with you at first, I would like to point out some benefits of using Cloudscape.

    Over the years I've had a few (small, hobby) projects, where I really felt the need for a database which did not need to be fast nor did it need to be huge. So I tried Cloudscape. And while it isn't the fastest around, it gets the job done.

    The easiest part is that you can just bundle it with your application, without writing a single line of code!

    I've tried MySQL, but I still need to install it prior to being able to run my application - no need for that with Cloudscape.

    But, granted, it is not the fastest out there. If I need a *real* database, I just use Oracle.

  4. But that is not embeddable by MarkEst1973 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Your post was certainly informative in that others might have learned about a new tool and are looking at Sql Anywhere, but to be fair, the purpose of that tool is different than Cloudscape's.

    Embedding a database in an application can be very useful, such as in a desktop GUI where you cannot rely on network communication or maybe don't want to bother with a client/server environment.

    I'd certainly consider Java/Cloudscape for a desktop db-backed application over anything built in Access.

    As always, fit the tool to the job, not the job to the tool.

  5. Re:2 points you are wrong on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Java VM's can out-perform cpp over n cycles, where n is sufficient to overcome Java start times (seconds)

    Yes, and a well-supplied tortoise can out-distance a rocket over n years, where n is much longer than the rocket's burn time :/