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China Bans 50 Games

Stargoat writes "The official mainland Chinese news agency, Xinhau, is reporting that China is banning 50 gaming titles. These titles include Battlefield Vietnam, The Sims 2, and FIFA 2005. A similar game banning event occurred six months ago in China, but not to this scale."

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  1. Sounds like a piracy crackdown, not a ban. by bigtallmofo · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the article:

    "Chinesegovernment in 2005 will focus on combating illegal publications. This especially concerns pirated textbooks, electronic publications and illegal journals that will have negative influence on the youth."

    It sounds to me from the article like they're cracking down on piracy and not necessarily passing judgement on the games themselves (other than the people making pirated versions of them). But then, it was written by someone that likely doesn't speak my native language natively so who knows? (Although their English is likely far superior to my total lack of knowledge of Chinese).

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    1. Re:Sounds like a piracy crackdown, not a ban. by eln · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Really?

      From TFA:

      As part of the effort to protect intellectual property rights and create a good environment for Chinese youth

      It's most definitely at least partially censorship. The fact that they are banning several Vietnam War related games, which almost certainly show the Americans as the "good guys" and the communist North as the "bad guys", supports this idea.

    2. Re:Sounds like a piracy crackdown, not a ban. by wfmcwalter · · Score: 4, Informative

      Taiwan

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    3. Re:Sounds like a piracy crackdown, not a ban. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      There might be a chance that FIFA has a country listed that China doesn't recognize as sovereign, but I'm not sure which one that would be (I don't even play FIFA

      Yes.. They fail to recognise that Cupertino and Vancouver are not part of China.

    4. Re:Sounds like a piracy crackdown, not a ban. by nicklott · · Score: 4, Interesting
      which almost certainly show the Americans as the "good guys" and the communist North as the "bad guys"
      Actually, BFV is pretty even-handed in how it deals with this (the developers are Swedish not American). At no point is either side referred to as good or bad, (except in-game, from an enemy viewpoint) and China is not mentioned anywhere (though perhaps that's the problem. The version of events differs from the Official Chinese version). Possibly though EA's US-based marketing machine may have been handling it differently.
    5. Re:Sounds like a piracy crackdown, not a ban. by I8TheWorm · · Score: 4, Informative

      That was in 1979... a full 4 years after Americans were completely evacuated, and SVN was overrun by NVN. The reasons for the invasion were Chinese claims of discrimination by the Vietnamese, the 1978 signing of the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation with the Soviet Union led China to call Vietnam the Cuba of the East, and Vietnam's 1978 invasion of Cambodia being a threat. The invasion lasted four weeks, and was considered a punishment by the Chinese.

      During the Vietnam conflict/war, China was instrumental in supplying the NVN with weapons and funding. My father's job in the USAF was to listen to Chinese pilots who were carrying military cargo to Vietnam... sometimes Chinese, sometimes Soviet.

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  2. Minor correction by manifoldronin · · Score: 5, Informative

    The name of the new agency is Xinhua.

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  3. FIFA 2005 by CoMmEnT23 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Last time I played FIFA 2005, I had to turn away because the gore was so bad. I mean soccer, geez, what's next, a ban on any E rated games?

  4. FIFA 2005 by Airline_Sickness_Bag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only reason I can figure that it's been banned would be if there is a Taiwanese team as an option.

  5. Capitalist Overtones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Battlefield Vietnam makes sense from the perspective of Bejing, but the Sims? Maybe the strict control of your people hits a little too close to home :-)

  6. Sims 2? by Rahga · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well... if women in Sims 2 are allowed to have more than one child, then maybe the Chinese people will start getting ideas.... The sims could lead a revolution, and their government simply can't allow that. :)

  7. Re:Get a hint by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Insightful
    > Lawmakers - imagine what how other countries are using propaganda when you make laws against *EVIL* games. You may be making your country look more like a repressive communist society.

    By banning BFV, FIFA 2005, and Sims2, the Chinese are doing it to protect their society from the misconceptions that America was the "good guy" in Vietnam, from the notion that Taiwan is sufficiently independent to get a soccer team, and a game featuring characters that elevate their moods by "meditating" with pseudoscientific mysticism, see "ghosts", can enter same-sex relationships, and who frequently hop into a bed for pixelated "woo-hoo" -- the latter of which oughta be grounds for a ban in any civilized nation. But all three games are being banned for the same fundamental reason: they threaten the stability of the Chinese government.

    When our lawmakers do it, it's for the freedom and security of our children.

    40 years ago, Ted Kennedy had to leave his girlfriend to drown so he could continue defending our children's future. And the Senators from Disney probably had to snort a lot of cocaine from between a lot of plastic starlets' tits before deciding it was time to ban the internets.

    That's the difference between freedom and repressive communism. Honestly, we have no idea the sacrifices our lawmakers make for us.

  8. In PRC by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Government bans Sims 2, they don't like competition when trying to run the lives of 1.5 billion people.

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  9. Re:Really weird list of banned games... by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I live in Germany

    Speaking of bans, they mentioned during one of the Prince Dumbass (the guy who wore the Nazi outfit to the party) news blurbs about Germany's ban on the swastica. Do they grant waivers for things like history books? Or do they have to blur out the symbol in any historical photos, or something?

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  10. Command and Conquer... by Sheepdot · · Score: 4, Informative
    From Wired:
    And in early 2003, the same agency banned the Electronic Arts-produced title Command and Conquer Generals: Zero Hour Expansion for "smearing the image of China and the Chinese army," according to the state news agency.

    While I understand that Command and Conquer and it's sequels/expansions could easily be seen as portraying China in a negative light, the premise of the "Generals" series is hardly anti-Chinese:

    1. What is Generals' story?

    EA Pacific have created a brand new storyline, units and tactics that have all been inspired by the technologies and ideologies of today's tumultuous world. Generals spans between present day and 20 years into the future, and offers up a metaphor for today's version of global warfare. Three very different sides are fighting for supremacy, the superpowers of the United States and China, along with an umbrella terror organization, the GLA. Each employs very different tactics in their war efforts. For example, the United States places a great deal of importance on human life, and thus has a small, but very capable, ground force among its weaponry. The Chinese, on the other hand, has a massive, swarming army that uses their numbers to their advantage. China also has an affinity for fire and uses it in much of its weaponry. Finally, the GLA relies on sneaky tactics and being hard to find... thus hard to kill.

    2. How about a more detailed story overview?

    Set roughly 20 years into our future, China is no longer governed by old communist beliefs and cold war mentality. While still communist, the new Chinese government are people that grew up on modern culture and things like MTV. These new leaders strive to make China a mainstream world power and part of the G8. The GLA, an umbrella terrorist organization, is stepping up its assaults on the Chinese borders and terrorist attacks inside China. Bent on proving their world super power status, China sets out to combat the GLA in a war against terror. To spite more countries, GLA launched a nuclear strike against Europe and the United States of America. While Europe was hit by the nuclear strike, the USA managed to intercept the missiles and now they have launched their own campaign against the GLA, to eradicate the terrorist organization.


    Anti-communist, maybe, but anti-Chinese, certainly not. Perhaps they were "smearing" the dreams of some political leaders? This came from Planet C&C, by the way.
  11. Way, to go, /. by mrn121 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    In a related story: Slashdot's credibility dropped another ten points today by means of yet another over-zealous printing of a story with little actual content.

    If you read the actual article, you will see, as many astute readers have pointed out, that this is an issue of China attempting to crack down on video game piracy, not ban games because they are evil communists.

    It is my opinion that recently slashdot has started down the slippery slope of becoming what I despise about big time news agencies: a marketplace for sensationalized stories. Every dramatic article posted on /. recently ends up being far less dramatic upon further investigation. I used to love slashdot for the lack of glitzy CNN-esque flash headlines of empty news articles, now slashdot is becoming exactly that.

    And don't give me that "well it's the readers who submit articles, so don't blame slashdot, blame the readers" crap. We all know how hard it is to get an article posted on the front page, and we all know that there are tons of articles submitted and only a few chosen by a handful of people who have their own ideologies/agendas. The only difference with having users submit the articles at this point is that the moderators don't have to dig up the articles themselves.

    If trends continue along these lines, I think my days of reading slashdot are numbered. I can read sensationalized news anywhere (CNN, FOXNews, ABC, CBS, NBC etc). I come here for the in-depth, interesting, non-glamorous, I-might-just-learn-something-today news, and I am finding it harder and harder to come across on slashdot.

    Mod this however you want. I might be a troll, but I feel like it needed to be said.

  12. Re:Really weird list of banned games... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do they grant waivers for things like history books?

    Yes, they do. It would be a little pointless and self-defeating to remove them or blur them out from historic documents.

  13. Very VERY wrong summary by northcat · · Score: 5, Informative
    China did NOT ban The Sims 2 and FIFA 2005. Please, AT LEAST the editors should RTFA. The news item reports two things:
    1. Pirated copies of the following games are banned: Age of Mythology: the Titans, The Sims 2, Manhunt, FIFA 2005, Battlefield Vietnam and Painkiller: Battle out of Hell. PIRATED copies. Much to the delight of the makers of those games. They can still be legally sold and obtained in China.
    2. These games were illegal in China (they weren't allowed to be sold -- banned): Conflict Vietnam, Vietcong: Fist Alpha and Devastation. But, presumably, people sold them anyway and therefore they have been banned. Let me repeat, only the following games have been completely banned from China: Conflict Vietnam, Vietcong: Fist Alpha and Devastation.
    First slashdot reports an urban legend as true and now this.
    <ranting about how incompetent news posters are and how careless slashdot editors have become>
  14. Slashdot got the headline wrong by snakecoder · · Score: 5, Funny



    It should be China promoting 50 new games

    AP- In a flash of brilliant marketing, China has given 50 games the kiss of life by banning them. Young students were clamoring to see the list so they could figure out what games they wanted to get ahold of first. One unnamed student was quoted as saying "I've never had a way to find out what games would be good. This list is awesome".

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