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Speakeasy Embraces Firefox

xdavexxx writes " Speakeasy, one of the largest DSL providers in the United States, recently announced that it will begin offering a specialized version of Mozilla Firefox to its customers. In doing so, they are one of the first internet companies to offer an official customized version of Firefox to its customers. This custom version of Firefox will keep the Firefox Google home page, but have the Speakeasy logo and feature a Speakeasy toolbar filled with links recommended by Speakeasy. No money was exchanged between the Mozilla Foundation and Speakeasy, as Firefox is open source and is freely available for use by anyone. Speakeasy's reasoning for this is simple; to increase the reliability and speed of its internet service." It should be pointed that Slashdot (and OSTG) have a partnership with Speakeasy.

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  1. Branded by mboverload · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lets just hope they keep the name Firefox somewhere on the program so they can tell their friends.

    1. Re:Branded by FrYGuY101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At the very least, let's hope this provides a critical mass which means that site operators have to deal with IE AND Firefox, rather than simply viewing FireFox as a negligable market.

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  2. Firefox by geomon · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Sigh. I wish more people used it, but IE will just continue to dominate until Microsoft heads to that pasture where all mega-companies eventually end up in (ala AT&T).

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    1. Re:Firefox by peg0cjs · · Score: 2, Insightful
      This is a chicken-and-egg effect. Developers will stop writing IE only pages when critical mass demands it. Until then, install the IEView extension & complain to your bank/post office/office supply store/whoever is writing non-standard html.

      I have personally converted both my wife (fairly tech-savvy but resistent to change) and mother-in-law (pretty low-tech), and both prefer Firefox hands down. The trick is:

      1. Install Firefox.
      2. Set it default and hide IE icon.
      3. Install a small handful of useful extensions.
      4. Give them the 10 second rundown.
      5. Everybody Profits!

      On the converting bad corporate citizens front, I am pleased to say that the last IE Only site I regularly visit (epost.ca) has re-coded to be standards compliant and now works fine in Firefox. When I complained to them 6 months ago, their initial response was "We code IE cuz 97% of our traffic uses it", but they eventually saw the light.

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  3. Makes sense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fewer Malware programs target FireFox, less security vulnerabilities, means less bandwidth is used by said malware and more by the actual customers.

    Kudos, Speakeasy.

    1. Re:Makes sense... by greechneb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, but unfortunatly, even though firefox is superior software, eventually there will be spyware targeted to firefox. The spyware and malware writers aren't stupid, unfortunately, and they'll find any way to fool stupid users.

      I'm not saying it will ever be the epidemic IE has, but there will be some spyware that will fool users, whether it be a toolbar, or some other "add on" that sounds good to users.

      Build smarter mouse, someone builds a better mousetrap unfortunately.

    2. Re:Makes sense... by adamjaskie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except that Firefox does not do ActiveX, so writing malware for it is that much more difficult. Possible, sure, but quite a bit more difficult.

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    3. Re:Makes sense... by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, but Firefox has XPI extentions. Granted, you have to whitelist to install, but there are stupid users out there.

    4. Re:Makes sense... by LetterJ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While a nice thought, it's not really as safe as you'd like to believe. More than once already, I've seen a site pop up an XPI installer asking for permission. In one of those cases, someone else was at the keyboard and just clicked without missing a beat. Didn't read it or anything. Any browser with any sort of extension mechanism is vulnerable to people just OK'ing whatever they're asked and allowing the installation.

    5. Re:Makes sense... by northcat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Interesting point. And less badwidth used by malware == lesser costs for Speakeasy.

    6. Re:Makes sense... by araemo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A bigger problem is when legitimate sites w/ activex that needs to be whitelisted have a 'support' page that recommends changing the security settings so that whitelisting is no longer necessary.

      I can't list any of these because I have not had to use an ActiveX control that required whitelisting since windows 98, but I have still seen these around.. "Change your security permissions from 'disable' to 'allow' or 'prompt' to make our site work." Rather than "Add our site to your trusted sites zone to make our site work."

    7. Re:Makes sense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Except that when this browser goes mass-market, the base platform 90% of users will run on will be Windows. It doesn't matter one jot about how you slice it, the popular software packages will always have the biggest outbreaks/epidemics.

      Simply having firefox doesnt negate the primary point of infection, people saying yes to stupid emails and installing the fantastic patch they provide.

    8. Re:Makes sense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Except that mozilla/firefox have XUL and there are quite a bit of open bugs about the type of malware type behavior you can do with it.

      If not ActiveX there will always be some activex type technology which can never be 100% secure and could e used for malware.

      And this is ignoring the whole plugin affair. You really think that the firefox plugins on the website are checked? There is no limit to what can be done with them in a much easier way then activex

      So while IE is bad and I am happy that FF is getting more popular, lets not sit with our fingers in our ears and pretend were perfect too...

  4. Good way to spread it by Kethinov · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Many ISP customers just do exactly what their ISP tells them to. If this ISP starts shoving Firefox down customers' throats, Firefox market share could drastically increase over IE's.

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  5. Ads? by wdd1040 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Links that Speakeasy chooses?

    As in their paid advertisers? What's next? Companies integrating spyware into Firefox and redistributing it?

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    1. Re:Ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Heh, a bit far fetched to go from harmless links to spyware.

  6. Re:And so it begins by geomon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And by that, I mean the security holes creaping in.

    That very well could be.

    The difference between IE and Firefox will be in how well they respond to the bugs that are found.

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  7. Speakeasy by mboverload · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Speakeasy seems to be pretty in tune with the "geek/nerd" community. This shows they have smart managers or a persuasive IT department.

    Anyway, we should commend them greatly. Now we can say that ISP's even recommend it.

  8. support costs by confusion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This probably makes a lot of sense from a support perspective. I've got to believe that most of the calls that support people get are related to the 397 spyware apps competing for keystrokes on the customer's computer.

    It problably also has to potential to cut down on spambots & other zombies residing on their network.

    Jerry
    http://www.syslog.org/

  9. You know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If that's not in the slashdot FAQ, it should be.

  10. Re:This isn't exactly new.... by mboverload · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Netscape paid them that time. This time it is because Firefox just plain rules. Even better, NO licensing to deal with, which makes Firefox an attractive option for any company distributing or recommending it.

  11. Re:Wrong place to start by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually by replacing IE they are pretty much ending the use of ActiveX over their network. Less 0wn3ed machines == less spam/zombies/what have you. It is proactive on their part.

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  12. Re:support calls by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you've got a wheel-mouse, then you can hold control and roll the wheel forward then back.

  13. Options.. by aero2600-5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Speakeasy is wonderful because it's nice to have an option for DSL. If it wasn't for them, there would be no alternatives to Bellsouth other than cable in the area I live in. Now they're supporting Firefox. That just makes it all the better.

    Aero

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  14. "Free" to use.. by wfberg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No money was exchanged between the Mozilla Foundation and Speakeasy, as Firefox is open source and is freely available for use by anyone

    Although presumably they will have entered into some arrangement with the Foundation (or The Charlton Company), seeing as Firefox is a registered trademark. This is a good thing as it can prevent people spreading bastardized versions of firefox, such as Firefox Claria edition..

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  15. Tech Support will Help Promote by brandonp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sounds to me that calls to Tech Support will end up being a huge promotion effort for Mozilla Firefox. I'm sure Speakeasy will recommend many of it's troubled customers to download their customized version of Firefox.

    How many customers does this promotion extend to? I'm sure Firefox will be much closer to that 10% Internet usage mark.

    This is fun.

    Brandon Petersen

  16. Re:Who cares? by stanleypane · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your opinion is in complete disregard to the other 90% of users on the internet. There spigot is going to be spewing toxic waste into their house in no time at all. In turn, we all suffer.

  17. Re:support calls by naelurec · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have been using the SlashFix extension and since installing, I have not had that issue anymore. hurray! :)

  18. Should make it easier for corp. customization by raitchison · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As it is unless you are willing to tweak the code and recompile you don't have a lot of options for customizing Firefox (at least not that I have found, I'd LOVE to be shown that it's doable). I think that corporations, that are struggling with spyware on a regular basis would be willing to switch to Firefox more readliy if they could easily tailor it to their needs, choosing default home page, links, install internal CA root certificates etc. For it's faults IE makes it pretty easy to do this, with the IEAK you can customize just about everything.

  19. Re:Wrong place to start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Nice fluff piece, slashdot. How about something with some meat on the bone?

    Oh come on. Switching away from IE is a very high bang-for-buck ratio, lots of benefit for little outlay. You sound like one of those people that just wants a bunch of stuff handed out for free.

  20. Re:SWEET! by NardofDoom · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Yes, because I want my browser "recommending" links to me and plastering its logo all over the place.

    I hope *fewer* companies start doing this, and more companies make web sites that don't rely on IE "standards" to function properly.

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  21. Re:SWEET! (or shinola?) by turnstyle · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "hope more companies start doing that"

    Does that include:

    "This custom version of Firefox will have the Speakeasy logo and feature a Speakeasy toolbar filled with links recommended by Speakeasy. No money was exchanged between the Mozilla Foundation and Speakeasy, as Firefox is open source and is freely available for use by anyone."

    I know I'm old-fashioned, but I think coders should be paid for their work.

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  22. Re:Wrong place to start by dooglio · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Where I work, our Internet guru bitches about Firefox (and Mozilla's) exclusion of ActiveX support by default. Only because that makes watching embedded WMV impossible (and we are all about video streaming).

    I would like to see ActiveX in FF only if it could be treated like extensions; .e.g. you only can download from trusted sites.