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8Mbit Broadband to Become Available in the UK

UK Online is offering 8Mbit broadband service to the UK. The upstream is 400K, and there's a monthly download cap of 500GB, but at 40 pounds per month, plus 50 installation and a free wireless router in the package, that has to be among the best deals on offer from anyone.

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  1. Monthly Cap? by snikeris · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No service with a monthly cap is a good deal...

    1. Re:Monthly Cap? by ticktockticktock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yea. That monthly cap effectively limits you to about 193k/s sustained 24/7 or you would end up going over the cap by the end of the month with 24/7 downloading. 500GB could be used up in roughly 6 days of using the max download speed 24/7.

    2. Re:Monthly Cap? by snikeris · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not everybody only downloads specific files. Applications like freenet which are constantly uploading/downloading content that you don't specifically request would fill the cap (provided they are downloading fast enough). Besides, 100+ DVDRs of crap a month that I'll never use/view just isn't enough.

    3. Re:Monthly Cap? by frdmfghtr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      C'mon people let's keep the cap in perspective...

      As I calculate it and concur with previous numbers, it takes about a week of SOLID streaming, at the full 8Mbps to hit the cap. Are you really going to pull that much data 24/7?

      Your download speed might be able to hit 8Mbps, but is the server and interconnecting datapath going to send you the data that fast? My Comcast account (when I had one) was capped at 3Mbps (or 366Kbps if I figure it right, feel free to double check) but I almost never saw anything higher than 250-300Kbps, and that was a minority of the time.

      Lament the cap all you want, but ask yourself: is it really a barrier you're in danger of hitting? If you really need to pull that much data, it sounds to my untrained ear that you have small-business-type bandwidth requirements and shouldn't be relying on a residential ISP anyway.

      If you object to the cap purely on principle, then that's your own business.

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  2. Huh? "Become available" by philask · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We've had 8 Mbit/sec ADSL in the UK for almost two years now... I know because we've got it.

    http://www.easynet.net/broadband/broadband_categ or y.asp?id=1

  3. you guys are getting screwed... by ltwally · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I pay half as much for the exact same speed here in the States, and I don't have a download cap... and the US is supposed to be lagging behind the rest of the world in broadband. You limies are really getting screwed!

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  4. 500GB by phorm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Question: How many people have enough space to *store* that much data. Video streaming might eat into it, but even that doesn't hit the full bandwidth and wouldn't be 24/7.

    Unless you count those that run big servers, have massive storage space, or download tons of pr0n and archive it not many people will get near that anytime soon.

  5. Re:Best deal in UK or worldwide? by hattig · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Considering that the UK is currently stuck with deals like 512/128 for £20 a month, or NTLs most generous 1500/128 service for £35 a month, £40 a month for 8000/400 is a bargain.

    I wonder if they'll offer a 2000/200 for £20 a month?

    I expect this is why NTL are rumoured (well, I recall them sending a letter anyway) to be upping speeds from 300,750,1500 to 1000,2000,3000 in the near future, for the same price.

  6. Re:Sigh... by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful
    $85 a month U.S. Jimminy
    Lucky for Brits they aren't paying with our worthless dollar!
  7. 8MBit to the CO by mnmn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How fast is the connection from the CO to other major backbones? How much of the 8mbit is committed bit rate? How much is guaranteed if say all possible users start downloading at the same time?

    Is that ISP's network multihomed?

    And even more importantly what is the latency to yahoo.com, Torontos 151 Front St, backbones in NYC, and the Silicon Valley Sprint networks? How much is the delay to alter.net routers?

    In short, will you see 80ms or 30ms playing counterstrike on your average server in the US, Canada or Korea?

    All this is assuming their internal switches are all non-blocking preferably gigabit switches with either gigabit or 10gigabit uplinks, not 10mbit ethernet hubs. Also assuming their modem and CO equipment are both nonblocking doing the pppoe and breaking up 1500-sized packets to fit because most people dont enter 1492 in their MTU settings.

    If their networks are in such good shape, more uplinks will be appreciated more than higher speec downlinks, maybe 4mbit/1mbit or even 4mbit/4mbit SDSL, especially if they provide static non-pppoe IPs. These things simply allow other possibilities even for the consumer market which wants to share pictures, stream out videos to relatives, and run game servers.

    With all ISPs inching up their technologies, upgrading their equipment in each iteration, it escapes me why dont they quite simply lay down fiber optic ethernet lines in the streets running at 100mbit both ways, and just be done with it. Their operating costs will absolutely plummett, and fiber optics do exceed the ADSL distance. What is cheaper, a new cisco or juniper DSLAM, with countless ADSL DMT/DOCSIS modems, or piles of made-in-taiwan switches and fiber cables??

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  8. Re:Dear UK.. by Zocalo · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Yes, but Sweden's government paid for most of the installation of a fibre network. If you get taxed 60% of course you are going to get cheap broadband.

    Actually, we could have had that kind of infrastructure in the UK too. Back in the 1980s BT wanted to replace the existing copper network with fibre across the board at its own expense. The catch was that it wanted the government remove the restrictions that were preventing it from becoming a content provider. Basically, their plan was to recoup the costs through competing with cable and satellite providers, but the government (Thatcher's) nixed the idea.

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  9. 100Mbps in Japan for $52/month + VoIP by hedley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was just there. Now *that* is what I am
    expecting for broadband. Its fibre to the home.
    (This was in Kyoto). VoD applications (movies, pay for shows, pr0n, its all possible).

    In the good old US of A we can get 1.5 or 3mbps WooHoo!

    Hedley

  10. Re:Sigh... by nagora · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Brittain is a big slap in the face to the whole population density perspective on why the west sucks at infrastructure upgrades..

    What does this mean?

    TWW

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  11. Re:Not really a great deal... by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You probably have about the cheapest and best service available anywhere in the US in the NYC metro area, due to high population density and general tech-savvy level. You're hardly a representative sample. Here in LA, I pay $60 for 3 Mbps download and 384 kbps upload (sucks for bittorrent). The fastest available service is Speakeasy DSL at 6 Mbps download and 768 kbps upload, but that costs $110 per month (and I'm considering it). Elsewhere it's worse, and of course in the country you're lucky to get broadband at all for any price.

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  12. Re:Hot Damn! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    WHAT?

    Telstra don't even offer those speeds in AUSTRALIA

    hmm, though I see their download cap is as small as it is here

  13. Re:Not really a great deal... by billcopc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bubba, if you think 500gb is easy to reach then I'd like to know what the hell you use it for. I am a LEECH, I consume everything that's anything as far as DVD, consoles or music are concerned and I would have to spend half my day queueing files in order to come anywhere close to 500gb a month.

    Maybe you're one of those "special" types who download the entire newsgroup, then delete whatever you don't like. I never did fully appreciate the "Autograb" function in my newsreader.

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  14. Re:Not really a great deal... by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a great deal for the UK.

    It'd be a fucking great deal here in Norway

    Perhaps in the US it's only a good deal.

    I'm sure in Japan, South Korea etc. it is a poor deal.

    Somehow, I'm not about to move to either of those places for the Internet connection though. Would involve leaving my mom's basement and all, yes? Seriously though, most of us have a life where we are, and a vast improvement in internet connection where we are is "news for nerds" :)

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