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Can-Spam Increased Spam

andy1307 writes "According to New York Times, spam has actually gone up [Free registration required. You gave real info, right?] since the CAN-SPAM act went into effect. There is a graphic in the article that illustrates this increase. Before the CAN-SPAM act was passed, spam was about 60% of all e-mail traffic. Now it's 80%. In a we-told-you-so quote, Steve Linford, the founder of the Spamhaus Project, says CAN-SPAM legalized spam by giving bulk advertisers permission to send junk e-mail as long as they followed certain rules. Slashdot covered this story last year. For companies that offer offshore "bulk advertising" servers, business is booming. A survey from Stanford University estimates the global cost of spam in terms of lost productivity to be at 50 billion $ and 17 billion $ in the US alone. CAN-SPAM does give prosecutors some leverage to go after the merchants - but it must be proved that they knew, or should have known, that their wares were being fed into the illegal spam chain. " The BBC has a related story talking about rates of spam, viruses, and scam mail.

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  1. Correlation != Causality by winkydink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A fact that seems lost on most journalists these days.

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    1. Re:Correlation != Causality by Trepalium · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not just journalists, either. Anyone with an agenda loves to forget these things, too. If you look at their handy graph, it looks like fairly linear growth both before and after CAN-SPAM, so blaming the law may be a little out of order.

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    2. Re:Correlation != Causality by badasscat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A fact that seems lost on most journalists these days.

      And I see that R'ing TFA is still lost on most Slashdotters these days...

      This is not an article about how CAN-SPAM has increased spam. It is an article about how spam has increased despite CAN-SPAM. That is a very different thing. Several viewpoints are given from all sides involved on why it's happening, but at no time does the article itself suggest CAN-SPAM is the cause - only that it has not been an effective deterrent.

      I think that's something we can all agree on.

    3. Re:Correlation != Causality by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It depends what you are blaming on the CAN-SPAM act. If you are blaming it for increasing spam, then you are abusing statistics. If you are blaming it for failing to live up to its promise to reduce spam you are entirely justified - not only did it fail to reduce spam, it failed to reduce the rate of increase of spam.

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  2. Correlation != Causation by jkujawa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's likely that spam would have increased anyway.

    1. Re:Correlation != Causation by suso · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, what this graph shows is the failure of the CAN-SPAM act to do anything.

  3. Slashdot, Jxyama. Jxyama, Slashdot. by LordPixie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Welcome to Slashdot. Where correlation does not mean causality for things like piracy, but does for things like legislation inducing spam. The trick is to remember that the evidence supports your position, and then figure out why.


    --LordPixie

  4. Oh well... by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A growing number of so-called bulletproof Web host services like Mr. Gillespie's offer spam-friendly merchants access to stable offshore computer servers - most of them in China - where they can park their Web sites, with the promise that they will not be shut down because of spam complaints.

    And this is exactly what we have been saying all along. No matter what laws are passed, no matter what we do to combat spam, the spammers will always find another way to make a buck.

    One of the spammers quoted in the article claimed that he didn't care about the lawsuits... He was making too much money to stop.

    If you're making too much money and they somehow make a law that actually works stick do you think that they are just going to go away? Yeah, I do, to other countries where those laws won't mean anything...

    Keep those firewalls banning entire countries (.kr and .br) and keep banning /16's and /8's until it is gone. The spammers are here to stay.

  5. Coincidental Correlation by kajoob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc

    Definition:

    The name in Latin means "after this therefore because of this".
    This describes the fallacy. An author commits the fallacy when
    it is assumed that because one thing follows another that the
    one thing was caused by the other.

    Examples:

    (i) Immigration to Alberta from Ontario increased. Soon
    after, the welfare rolls increased. Therefore, the increased
    immigration caused the increased welfare rolls.

    (ii) I took EZ-No-Cold, and two days later, my cold
    disappeared.

    Proof:

    Show that the correlation is coincidental by showing that: (i)
    the effect would have occurred even if the cause did not
    occur, or (ii) that the effect was caused by something other
    than the suggested cause.

    References

    (Cedarblom and Paulsen: 237, Copi and Cohen: 101)

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  6. Re:Here's the problem by gunnk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is something deeply ironic about a post stating incredulity that people would buy anything from spam... ... in a post with a sig to a "offerprizes.com" -- "free" iPod stuff.

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  7. Re:Duh... by Atzanteol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you believe that, then I have a scary statistic for you. Since that legislation passed more people have died of gunshots in the US! And my lucky red shirt prevents bear attacks with a 100% success rate!

    Corrolation != Cause & effect

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  8. resources are out there... by EmagGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I used to get easily 50 or more spams every day at one of my accounts... I implemented spamlist.org and now it's more like 5 or 10. Spamassassin on top of that cuts it to 1 to 5.

    They say that spam accounts for so much lost productivity, but they fail to mention that spam has spawned a whole new race of products and services that keep people employed. The Anti-Spam industry is thriving and contributing to world economic growth. As with everything, spam may be a nuisance, but it does have its benefits. As usual, regular users are caught in the crossfire.