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Outsourced Support, Now Outsourced Telemarketing?

Sir_Dill asks: "I was a little skeptical of the whole chicken-littlish sky is falling attitude about outsourcing to India, that is until it hit home. Over the last couple of days I have started to receive at least two calls a night from an unknown telemarketing company. First it was discovercard and tonight its a mortgage company called Parsec (whose webpage doesn't work in Firefox). Each time they ask for the person whose name is associated with my phone number in Google (an entirely different story altogether). When I inform them that they have the wrong number, they read the same script each time and each time I ask them to take me off their lists. Its getting old and I am feeling a little helpless in regards to this...and the worst part is...it is not an offer I can't refuse...it is one I can't understand. Has anyone else experienced this? How did you handle it and does the National Do Not Call list even apply?"

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  1. Outsourcing runs rampant in U.S. corporations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    MCI has outsourced most of its U.S. residential sales, customer service and repair service to Client Logic, RMH and another company I forget right now. Their call centers primarily operate out of three Canadian locations and Manila, where the telemarketers are. Business customers, for the moment, still enjoy the privilege of speaking to actual MCI employees right here in the U.S.A.

    If you're a residential MCI customer, and wind up speaking to someone who's in the U.S., you are extremely fortunate. Only high spending residential customers are routed to U.S. representatives.

  2. National Do-Not-Call list by LouCifer · · Score: 5, Informative

    What do you mean "..does the National Do Not Call list even apply?"

    Of course it does. If the company they're calling for does business inside the U.S. then they're in violation of the DNC list, regardless of where the actual calls are coming from - the company placing the calls are an extension of the comapny they're representing.

    Immediately file a complaint at https://www.donotcall.gov/Complain/ComplainCheck.a spx for each and every call you've received from this place.

    AFAIK, you don't have to warn them or ask them to remove you from the list - its not your responsibility to tell them you're on the list. Its their responsibility to check the list against the numbers they're dialing. They fail to do so, then its their problem they get hit with the fines.

    I've had to do this with at least three companies. I lodged complaints all of three times apiece. I've not got a single call from them again. IIRC, the fine is $500 each call.

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  3. Parsec's reply on Do Not Call lists: by stuckatwork · · Score: 4, Informative

    From their FAQ:

    "6. How do you handle Do Not Call Legislation? PARSEC Interact has implemented a rigorous program that ensures full DNC compliance.

    "As required by law, we ensure that all of our clients are properly registered for the states in which their programs are scheduled to run. This is required before the program can run. The process of registering is relatively painless, and we will walk you through every step.

    "Once the list is procured, we scrub not only against the National DNC Registry, but also against state and local DNC lists that are pertinent to the campaign.

    "All of our telemarketing agents are trained on how to handle customers who request to be put on the DNC Registry. They are also trained on which practices are acceptable, and which are not acceptable.

    We take DNC compliance very seriously, and we are proud of the proactive steps we have taken to ensure compliance. For detailed information on how PARSEC handles DNC compliance, ask your PARSEC representative about our DNC Compliance Guidelines."



    So, shouldn't you be able to make a claim against them?

    https://www.donotcall.gov/Complain/ComplainCheck.a spx

  4. DNC aoolies to overseas calls too by j-turkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    From the National Do Not Call Registry FAQ

    33. Are telemarketing calls from overseas covered?

    Yes. Any telemarketers calling U.S. consumers are covered, regardless of where they are calling from. If a company within the U.S. solicits sales through an overseas professional telemarketer, that U.S. company may be liable for any violations by the telemarketer. The FTC can initiate enforcement actions against such companies.

    I guess it would make sense that people doing business in the US are still accountable to US laws and regulations. Get their name and number -- file a complaint. It will do us all a favor.

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  5. Here is their contact info by sfjoe · · Score: 4, Informative

    PARSEC Interact, Inc.
    2672 Bayshore Parkway # 703
    Mountain View, CA 94043
    Phone: 866-9-PARSEC(866-972-7732)
    650-960-1884
    Fax: 650-960-1881
    Email: info@parsecinteract.com

    Probably a mail drop

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  6. DNC applies to company being represented by crimethinker · · Score: 3, Informative
    The do not call list applies whether they have their own employees making the calls, "independent sales representatives," or they contract out to another shop, even one overseas. If the HQ is here, DNC applies.

    Sue the companies whose services are being sold. After all, they are paying someone else to hassle you, and so they are ultimately responsible.

    I haven't had a discover card for almost 9 years now, and I don't miss it one bit. Crappy customer service, accepted almost nowhere compared to Visa and BastardCard, and higher interest rates, too.

    -paul

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  7. No no no! by WSSA · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't say "take me off your list", they'll just add you back again. Say "put me on your do-not-call list".