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Student Logs Teachers Keystrokes

handy_vandal writes "A 16-year-old student has been charged with a misdemeanor for rigging a keystroke-recording device onto a teacher's computer. School district police received a tip from students that the boy was trying to sell answers to final exams. The District Attorney's Office has charged the teen with breach of computer information, a Class B misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $2,000 and up to 180 days in jail. This sort of thing has happened before. The problem is so pervasive that the GRE board has switched from computers back to paper and pencil."

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  1. My wife just started teaching... by AdamTrace · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My wife just started teaching 9th and 10th grade high school math. I gave her a little crash course on basic computer security (including watching out for keyloggers!)

    It's common knowledge that the kids are smarter than the teachers, computer-wise... but hasn't it always been that way?

  2. Security by captnitro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most people I meet don't necessarily think computer security is a problem past virii and adware -- and it shouldn't necessarily be their problem, it requires better design. But could their be a lesson here as to the importance of real-life, practical security needs?

    1. Re:Security by CAIMLAS · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem here, though, is that it's difficult to design a better human - humans being, after all, the biggest footfall in physical security, largely due to not knowing shit about physical security or proper passwords.

      It takes many years (about 12 + 4 here in the states) to program a human, and for years the quality of that programming has decreased drastically due to bored, underpaid programmers and poor programming procedures in general. I'm not sure how you want to make the humans better, but currently there's no practical method aside from the non-profit "open source" method of human programming.

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  3. You reap what you sow by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every computer added to a classroom is another nail in the coffin of modern teaching. There is nothing added by adding a computer, but much is taken away.

    Computers ought to remain in "computer labs" and perhaps on the desks for specialized "computer classes", but they definitely don't belong anywhere else.

    Creative usage of computers for teaching is a copout on the kids. By removing the teacher/student relationship and replacing it with an inanimate object, the kids lose out on a great deal of education. This is why home-schooled kids typically do better in college than "computer schooled" kids do.

    Is it any surprise that the more technology becomes a part of these kids' educations, the more likely it is that the bad apples are going to find ways to exploit the system?

    1. Re:You reap what you sow by Derkec · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's hard though. A lot of times school budgets get grants (government and otherwise) that can only be spent on technology. It's not always the school's dumb decision on where the money gets spent.

    2. Re:You reap what you sow by Geekbot · · Score: 5, Insightful
      That is such a giant blanket statement. You are way so far to the extreme it makes it hard for people to accept the good points of your post.
      Computers are misused by many teachers. I work for a school and my job is to make sure teachers understand how to use their computers, and when and why.


      Homeschooled kids will do better. One of the reasons is that a homeschooled kid isn't competing with 29 other kids for the teacher's attention. Sometimes a computer can give a student instant feedback that is just not otherwise possible with the size of current classrooms.


      Computers in the classroom allow teachers to present information in different ways, 3-D modeling, conferencing, visualizing abstract concepts, etc.


      Federal law states that by the end of 8th grade that a student should be computer literate. There are many research skills that are necessary to understand on the computer. When was the last time you saw a card catalog that was not on a computer?


      And how is a school district going to keep track of all of their attendance, discipline issues, etc, without a computer in the classroom? Districts are becoming more efficient and saving money by using programs to enter and track student information including grades and attendance. How would this happen without a classroom computer? And are you suggesting that every teacher should be forced to handwrite every assignment and test they give to the student? Where are they going to type it up without a classroom computer?


      Technology is just a word for the tools we use. Tools are not evil, they are not detrimental just for existing. Isn't it more true that the problem is that students aren't using how or when to use the correct tools? Do I understand that you are stating that computers should be used for computer classes but not used to enhance the core curriculum? What a waste of time and money to teach a kid to use a computer if you don't believe computers are beneficial.

    3. Re:You reap what you sow by WebCrapper · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This has always annoyed me. When schools spend more time and money on their sports program than any other aspect of the school, there is something wrong. They all strive to be the best at sports...gag.

      I went to a high school that spent several million on thier sports program each year, but would have run of the mill computers around and not keep them up to date. They ran the very first version of Windows 95 (the one where you could close the start button) until late 1998 when I graduated. 2 years later, I visited the school and found they where using the same OS - couldn't believe it. But oh my, the parents would scream if they let the football program slip a little...

  4. What kind of idiot... by FireballX301 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...uses a keylogger DONGLE?

    Seriously. Did he think that the teacher wouldn't notice a DONGLE that was added to the computer?

    Please. At least use a trojan-type keylogger, or something even slightly covert.

  5. Of course, they could stay with computers by RLiegh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    if they placed the computers (with the tests) someplace better. As /.ers know, the most important part of computer security is physical access.

    Remove the computer (with the tests) to somewhere that only teachers' can go, and you'll mostly eliminate the problem, without resorting to pen and paper.

  6. Calm down by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Before we all start to scream bloody murder this, fascist law that, I would like to say that this kid got what he deserved. He is not a victim here. The victim is a teacher whose privacy was violated and the attorney deserves our support this time. This case is completely unlike the one of DVD John or Kevin Mitnick. The 180 days in jail is nothing in this case. So please, let's stop our knee-jerk reactions and congratulate the law enforcement just once when they in fact have done a good job. No need to panic here, no need to remind about 1984 or the Third Reich, because this kid was the one who was spying on his teacher and who belongs in jail. This story is only about "Your Rights Online" because your rights could be as easily violated like the rights of that teacher were violated by his student. We need to be protected from spies, be them MIAA, NSA or our students.

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    1. Re:Calm down by hunterx11 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think what the grandparent was pointing out, is that there was a crime here regardless of the involvement of computers. Computers are just a tool. Should a burglar get a longer sentence for using a glass cutter to break into your house instead of smashing the window in with a baseball bat? The tool is irrelevant.

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  7. Here we go! by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not a thing. It has to do with a dishonest kid who got busted doing something wrong. But sure as the earth turns, someone here will twist it into some dark big brother scheme to strip the common man of our rights. Somehow.

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  8. My rights online? WTF? by jdreed1024 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Um, this is simply an electronic version of stealing the answer key from the teacher's office. And I'd expect a student to be charged with a crime for breaking into a teacher's office to steal an answer key. This, of course, is even worse, since the student could easily have obtained other information, such as credit card numbers (plenty of teachers order supplies online), usernames, passwords, etc.

    This isn't some poor misguided kid who got thrown in jail because the "lab monitor" saw him using "that Linux hacking tool" on the school Windows machines. Nor is it some grey-hat hacker pushing boundaries. When you actively go and install a keystroke monitor on a machine that is not yours, you're out to get information that you shouldn't have, period. It's totally premeditated, too - it's not like he was poking around in /tmp and found a MS Word auto-save backup file with the answer key in it, or was rummaging around in the trash can because he dropped his retainer and found the answer key - he deliberately went and got a keystroke logger and put it on the machine. There's no possible way to spin this as an innocent kid getting screwed.

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  9. Teacher = you by westendgirl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps I'm way off base here, but I assumed the person with violated rights was the teacher. I'm sure people in other professions risk having their clients log keystrokes or otherwise violate privacy. Of course, the school board (employer) could log keystrokes, but that's entirely different.

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  10. Re:Responsibilty by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think that the punishment being proposed is way too harsh (don't get me wrong).

    A Class B misdemeanor. Maximum punishment of $2000 and 180 days in jail. When ever there is a crime reported in the news, they always list the maximim possible punishment. Makes it sound much worse.

    How much you wanna bet he gets a fine and community service? Not all judges automatically give out the max punishment, especially for a first time HS kid offender, and especially for a crime where there was no physical harm or actual property/monetary theft

  11. No, seriously by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How ofteh do you check the connections to your computer, I meann REALLY check them, like close enough to see if there's something extra there? How about a work computer, where it's under a desk? How about one that you don't manage, that someone else takes care of?

    When you get down to it, most people won't notice for a long time. My computer is even exposed, and I walk past the back of it every time I go to sit down and use it, and I have to admit, it'd probably escape my notice unless I was doing some maintenance. I simply don't look closely at the cables regularly, no reason to, and a casual glance wouldn't register a small difference in the bunch that comes out the back.

    It's quite effective, on PS/2 computers at least. Main problem is decyphering the data later, since all you get is keystrokes, in the order they came in. IF it's someone who multitasks ans switches apps a lot with the mouse, or does lots of mouse cut n' paste, you can get a real jumble that's hard to understand. However for a username/password combo, usually easy to find.

  12. Re:My rights online? WTF? by roju · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's the typical jail sentence for stealing an exam key in a school? Hell, when was the last time someone got convicted for cheating during during a school test?

  13. Re: Happens so often the charge is ridiculous! by Horse+Rotorvator+JAD · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but a fine and the threat of jail time isn't the answer.

    I disagree. People seem to think that commiting crimes on a computer is somehow "not as bad" as the normal physical crimes of theft, tresspassing, etc. People need to be taught at a young age that doing things like putting a keystroke logger on a teachers computer is a real crime and not just harmless fun.

    If that kid gets a job in an office and throws a keylogger on his bosses computer he will get into some real trouble and rightfully so. They need to learn early on that this kind of behaviour is unnacceptable.

    But this is slashdot so I expect a bunch of replys saying that it is not the kids fault but it is the schools fault for not securing their computers.