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Yahoo! Sues Xfire Game Browser

Gamespot has the word that Yahoo! has filed a lawsuit against XFire, just two months after Yahoo!'s acquisition of the All-Seeing Eye, a similar game matching program. However, the lawsuit seems to revolve around the Yahoo! developed GameProwler. The program allows instant messaging users to see if buddies are currently playing games. From the article: "As this complaint is just one week old, no 'next steps' are certain. Lawyers familiar with patent law have told GameSpot a case like this could cost up to $2 million to defend and take up to two years to fully adjudicate."

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  1. obligatory prior art post by bersl2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know I've seen, at the very least, the old Gamespy program do this (i.e., keep a list of user names and whether they are playing on a server).

    Anybody got a link to the text of the patent?

    1. Re:obligatory prior art post by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Informative

      I know I've used MUDs that did this for over a decade. You could play one MUD and use an IM-like network to see who was on other MUDs and chat with them or even play games with them. Seems the concept would be similar enough to invalidate such lame patents.

      I remember doing similar things with BBS systems too.

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    2. Re:obligatory prior art post by bedessen · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't know why no one has posted it yet but here's a link to the text of the patent. The claimed date of filing seems to be 3-July-2000, when the provisional patent was filed.

  2. Past Employee\Prior art by qad · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the article, it looks like there are two problems:

    1)Kirmese, one of the Xfire's management, worked for Yahoo and came up with the patent in question while in Yahoo's employment.

    2)Whether the implementation of connecting gamers through messenger programs under patent 6,699,125 is really enforceable.

    Yahoo is concerned about a former employee using an implementation of connecting gamers together through a messenging service. Somehow, I suspect the patent itself might fall within prior art. The patent was awarded in 2004, and I seem to remember other examples of using messenging services to get games going.

  3. Another "With an X" patent by cgenman · · Score: 5, Funny

    They've patented the standard way of doing online cross-game friends detection, but With an IM client. I see they've found up my patented "Way of patenting things with superficial addition X, with a browser" Since they already know it, I'd like to share it with you all.

    Remember that this way of patenting things (with a browser) is patented, and is available for a nominal lawsuit when I catch you.

    First take an everyday concept, like buying dogfood or raking your lawn. Explain this in excruiciatingly exacting language, carefully crafted to be as broad and unintelligible as possible. If necessary, run it through an obfuscation program to get the broadest possible interpretation bork. Then, and this is key, to the end of the patent add the words "with an X" where X is something the patent clerk doesn't really understand with a browser.

    Here are some examples of things that you can get away with, err, add to the end of everyday activities, to get your own shiny new patent.

    With the internet
    With a CPU (whatever that would mean)
    With an IM client
    With XML
    Live
    With one click
    With a shared data management paradigm arrangement
    With multiple people at once
    With an electronic circuit
    With a cellular data network*
    With a frick'in laser beam
    With an open-source environment
    With a closed-source environment
    With a plug-in
    With metadata
    Automatically
    With subdomains
    With an encryption layer (cover all of your bases and encrypt this patent)

    If you are still having trouble thinking up things to patent, see also this helpful list. No idea is too obvious or too widely in practice to slip by the patent office with a browser. Yes, for just 20 million dollars in theoretical damages awarded by a judge who also didn't know what they were doing, you too could sue the pants off of anyone mowing their lawn in a closed-source environment. I guarentee it!**

    *Note that while "With a multiuser telephonic networking connection" is acceptable, "over the phone" is not.

    **Not an express or implied guarentee.

  4. Re:Goody by BoomerSooner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Welcome to the world of patents and politicians that are owned by the corporations. Until people get some backbone and quit voting because they are afraid be prepared for more of the same.