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If The Problem Persists, Reboot The Car

prostoalex writes "Ever-increasing presence of high-tech devices in modern cars is a double-edged sword, the New York Times discovers. Software from different suppliers brings up to some peculiar bugs, such as a heater turning itself on during a hot summer day. In December last year ABI Research estimated that roughly 30% of all warranty issues with new cars were microprocessor- and software-related. The NYT article also quotes an interesting prediction from IBM, saying that by 2010 almost all cars will have the same mechanical systems (hardware), and the differences will be primarily on software level." (That prediction seems as accurate as the IBM prediction that there was a worldwide market for 10 or so computers.)

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  1. Re:If it ain't broke put in a computer and wait by yotto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, on my last flight, we were delayed for a couple hours on the tarmac becasue they had to "replace a part". When they put the new part in, they had to turn off and back on the plane, and they waited about 2 minutes between turning off and back on.

    It was eerie sitting there for those two minutes thinking, "They're cold booting the plane that is about to take me into the air."

  2. had a problem with my 2002 Jeep by malus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    which was supposedly "repaired" by the dealership. 2 days after I picked up my jeep, the check engine light came back on.

    Rather than take it in for a $90 diagnostic fee, I found a trick: put in key, turn "on", "off", "on", "off", and finally, "on", and the diagnostic code(s) display in the digital odometer.

    Take that code to google, and I found that the jeep had the same problem which was supposedly "repaired".

    I took it back in, and mentioned the codes it was showing, and put up a fight with the service manager saying, "No, you will not charge me for the 'diagnostic' check, I already know what it is. It's code ABC and XYZ. Now, fix."

  3. Re:Paying by yagu · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ..., I don't care if I have to reboot my car. I understand that with advances in systems, there comes problems, and as long as I can reboot it as easily as my PC, thats fine. And it needs to have a lot of redundancy built in so that not only does it not disrupt my driving, but I can do it on the fly too, ....

    I concur with another reply to this comment. I find it interesting we've come to a level of quality in our technology that consumers actually expect and assume things will need to be rebooted. As for the OP of this reply, if one would be expecting and not minding a reboot as normal activity, how would one at the same time expect reliability such as "a lot of redundancy" to co-exist? If something is ill-behaved enough to likely require reboots, it IMO is equally likely to not have reliable redundancy.

    In the IT industry, I've encountered people who found something to work reliably 999 times out of 1000 to be good reliability (I used to work at microsoft -- many of them considered that good). But when you start talking about my car, I really think reliability needs to be essentially perfect. God help us if we start seeing this attitude in jet and airplane technology. (If we had .999 reliability in takeoffs and landings, guess how many crashes (literally) there would be every day!)

  4. My Favourite Engine by Clueless+Moron · · Score: 4, Interesting
    My favourite engine was in a sailboat I once had: a Yanmar marine diesel.

    Since it's diesel, there's no ignition system. It did have an alternator, but really it was just there to charge the battery so the starter motor could run, but it came with a handcrank so that if need be, you could handstart it. I did that once. Painful, but possible.

    No engine computer. No electricity needed whatsoever. Everything was mechanical.

    The timing was done by a cogged system, so there was no timing belt to break. In fact, the only belt in the entire engine was for the alternator. The water pump was also cogged.

    The manual had a succinct sentence in the debugging section: "If the engine is getting clean fuel and air, it must run". This was actually a bit pessimistic; one fellow I knew ran out of fuel a few miles away from home once in a flat calm and ended up pouring a mixture of turpentine and paint thinner into his fuel tank. The diesel fired up and run just fine, albeit a bit smokier than usual.