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Helping IT Save Money ... and Jobs?

An anonymous reader asks: "I work in a small, overworked and understaffed IT department at a profitable business. We recently got the news that we needed to cut costs. While every penny counts, simply turning off the computers at night and saving pennies on processor cycles isn't exactly a noticeable savings. I'm curious what measures other Slashdot readers have taken to save money within their IT departments."

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  1. Every Penny Does Count by fembots · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes it does. And it's even more important that at time of cost-cutting, you show the initiatives to help the company cutting costs whenever, wherever and however you can - So that your head is not on the chopping board.

    If you're in a small, overworked and understaffed IT depatment, are you sure there's anything left to be cut besides offshoring? Does it always have to be cutting costs in IT? How about, for once, in other departments?

    My company recently merged 3 production servers and 2 test servers into 1P and 1T, and saved 3 SQL2000 licenses (yeah, ex ex ex developers just set up their own "independant self sustain" web+data servers whenever they needed one).

    Also, how about cutting the 'net costs/time spent on Slashdot?

    1. Re:Every Penny Does Count by Jhon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Aside from your cute "offshoring" slam, there are other ways to save...

      Keep overtime to a minimum. Do a cost analysis of overtime paid vs. off-hour staffing and consider the addition of rotating on-call time for your employees.

      Keep your hardware CLEAN and read your logs! You can ID many hardware problems well before they cause downtime. Remember, when an office of 100 cant work, every hour of downtime translates to 100 hours of lost productivity.

      Change from Cells to Pagers.

      Don't let inkjet printers in the office AT ALL. They are a constant headache and steal more in support costs than ink.

      Need new workstations? Most software packages will run fine on older (say -- 5 year old) hardware. Buy off-lease Compaq, Dell, Gateway, etc... You can get 5x the hardware for the same money with win2k licences included. It will cost you in setup time -- but if you can manage identical hardware profiles (not that difficult), set up a single machine and clone it.

    2. Re:Every Penny Does Count by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nearly all IT workers are defined as "managemet" to get around that rule.

    3. Re:Every Penny Does Count by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately, over here in the United States where most of the slashdot audience is from, it's not like that. If the company wants to cut costs they pay you a low salary and work you until you quit. Any small companies that pay hourly are the ones that aren't on cost cutting crusades, unless they're breaking the law.

    4. Re:Every Penny Does Count by General+Fault · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We just cut our IT department. I would not recomend this as it makes our development staff our IT department. Paying a programmer to do IT stuff is like paying your contractor (as in home building contractor) to clean your house. Not only is it going to cost you $200 per hour to have a clean house but it is really going to piss off your contractor.

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    5. Re:Every Penny Does Count by Cramer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Salaried employees don't get overtime. It's rare (from all the surveys I've seen) for IT staff to be hourly workers -- for this very reason. As an "IT guy" and knowing many more in IT, it's rare for anyone to care that they're working more than 40hr/wk. (spouses, on the other hand, complain a lot.)

      Pagers are less reliable with worse coverage. And in many cases, a cell phone is simply cheaper. With a cell phone, you are talking with the person (or can be), so you instantly know if they are aware of a problem and when they'll be in a position to fix it.

      Having recently repaired a 5 year old computer -- a K6-2/350 running windows 98, there's no damned way you could get any productive work done with that thing. Just browsing the web is horribly slow. God help you if you have to run any real office applications (word, outlook, access, etc.) 2-3 year old (1GHz+ processor speeds) machines might be passable if your company is flat broke, but those machines are costing the company some employee productivity.

    6. Re:Every Penny Does Count by Jaysyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or you could do what I do, get a couple of overpaid, underworked management types fired. You'd be surprised how much overhead that can clear up. Usually doesn't take much more than a quick trip to their browser cache either.

      Jaysyn

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    7. Re:Every Penny Does Count by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pagers are less reliable with worse coverage. And in many cases, a cell phone is simply cheaper. With a cell phone, you are talking with the person (or can be), so you instantly know if they are aware of a problem and when they'll be in a position to fix it.

      I don't know where you live (or what pager company you use), but here (in Western Washington State) pagers have much, much, much better coverage than cells. Not only that, but they keep working even while in parking garages or in the center of large buildings where cellphones almost always lose signal.

      Pagers also have much better battery life, lasting 3-4 weeks on a single AA battery. You'll rarely miss a page because the battery is dead-- but a cell battery won't even last a full day.

      Not to mention that no doubt the vast majority of your staff already carries around a cell phone. Carrying around a cell and a pager is not that weird, but carrying around two cells would be very strange.

      I agree with your other points... overtime watching doesn't help with salaried employees, and 5-year-old computers are older than you think, but pagers are definately a better idea than cell phones.

    8. Re:Every Penny Does Count by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Piss him off? If I were the contractor, I'd sub-contract it to some high school kids for $8/hr, and sit on my ass laughing.

    9. Re:Every Penny Does Count by TheOldFart · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Blah... If you want efficient cost cutting, fire the CEO and all the beancounters in between who can't see beyond the end of the quarter and stockholder's asses. These people are trashing corporations in name of quick profit on Wall Street even if it means destroying the company in the process. The CEOs are by then fully vested and long gone to the next demolition derby. It makes me sick.

    10. Re:Every Penny Does Count by Cramer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For the record, this PC (dual PIII 800) has Office 97 installed on it. And it's running XP now. Wordpad can eat just about any .doc I've been handed. However, discounting incompatible file versions is just WRONG. When a vendor, customer, or whatever sends you documents that your 8 year old software cannot open, you cannot get your work done. Finding converters, viewers, alternate applications, or asking for it in a different format takes time, often destroys content, and makes you look like an idiot.

      The first problem with running software that old is simply that it isn't supported or patched anymore. Office XP includes the business contact manager, something some people seem to be unable to live without. Server based rules (outlook w/ exchange) with expanded functions. Improved security features -- like being able to turn off certain anoying crap like HTML rendering, hard blocking of certain file types (extensions) that can be a domain wide policy... Better junk mail filtering. IMAP support. Support for multiple POP3 accounts. SSL/TLS support for STMP/IMAP/POP. Support for more than one outbound SMTP server. SMTP AUTH that doesn't require M$ f'ing authentication protocol.

      And, of course, version compatibility problems when sharing files... open an access db with access 2000 and then try to open it with access 97. They cannot both have the db open at the same time unless 97 opened it first. God help you if some nuts clicks OK to convert the db to access 2000; older versions will never be able to open it again. Open the Outlook rules editor from 97 when 2000 lasted updated the rules and you'll fuck up the rules.

      But, you obviously don't care. Or you've not used the newer versions and realized what's been added or changed. And you've never worked anywhere where version compatibility and interoperability were an issue.

    11. Re:Every Penny Does Count by Cramer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      First off. every hospital I've been in has it's own FCC licensed pager system. It'll work for some distance outside the hospital. And certainly works in every little nook and dark corner inside the building. There's a real good reason your cell phone doesn't work in the middle of the hospital -- aside from the fact that you're not supposed to have one on in there... look around next time, see all that shit that's interfering with it? And the further inside you go, the more steal and concrete is hiding you from the tower(s). See, cell phone companies don't hang boosters inside hospitals like they do in malls.

      Pagers are unreliable. They are passive, low-power devices. The paging tower has no way of knowing a) the pager even exists, b) is on, c) is in range, or d) received the message intact. Cell phones are bi-directional. When you call one, you know instantly if the call was answered or not and if your message was understood or not. Even the fancy bi-directional pagers give no idication to the originator that their message was received, even if the paging terminal has confirmation from the pager.

      I could see the reasoning for carrying both, but that adds to the budget. The cell phone will do everything the pager will (and much more), gives you a phone to answer any "page" which you'll need anyway, and provides immediate indication of receiving power -- no bars means you'll not be getting many calls/pages. Pagers don't have those bars; and those trying to page you don't get a message saying your phone is off the network.

    12. Re:Every Penny Does Count by Total_Wimp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, the medium-sized company I work at paid overtime until a couple of years ago. We were actually all salaried employees in IT, but the company seemed to understand our plight so they voluntarily gave us straight pay, based on our salary, for every hour we worked over forty. It kept a lot of good people from bailing out to startups during the dot.com boom years.

      When it was cut, we moved to only forty hour paid work weeks with all overtime comped. People would keep spreadsheets of the overtime they spent patching servers or whatever and they would actually take off a day at a time or a week at a time here or their as compensation. It wasn't' quite as good as getting the extra pay, but it made the department a workable experience for people with families and almost no one left for the next couple of years too.

      Recently comp time has been going through a "tightening up" phase. I personally know of several people that are looking to move on. In truth, we have some positive movement in the economy, and we really could use some fresh faces in our department, but the correlation between going to a more traditional salaried environment and people's desire to leave is not lost on me.

      I think bosses around the country should keep this in mind if they need to address tough retention issues at their companies. If you treat employee's time with respect, they're much more likely to want to keep working for you. It takes a lot of time to teach a new employee the way things are done at your particular company so keeping them around for a few extra years is definitely to your benefit.

      TW

  2. Where do you spend it? by Barondude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Saving money is directly tied to where you spend it.

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    1. Re:Where do you spend it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      concur and suggest you get out of your bunker mentality mindset and attack. Start by making it known that you are looking to INCREASE your department's workload by eliminating costs in other departments. Swing some elbows! Infomation Technology is NOT a cost center!

  3. Fire mid-level managers who don't do anything... by Assmasher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's bound to be 3 or 4 of them.

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  4. turning off computers? by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful
    generally the electricity isn't going to come out of the IT budget anyway, and you probably won't be recognized for cost savings if you write up a nice proggy to automatically put your computers to sleep at a certain time, so why bother on that one...

    Instead, do what businesses themselves do. diversify! If your IT department is only responsible for maintaining a users desktop, then develop an interactive web based help system that goes towards that purpose. Now your it department also has programmers, and your mission is expanded (and hopefully your budget will follow!)

  5. Are you building instead of buying? by plierhead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bit of an open question really. But are you doing any software development? Sometimes the big drain on the department's budget turns out to be some piece of ambitious development that would be better handled by buying outside.

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  6. Dump Microsoft by RailGunner · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Dump Microsoft Office in favor of OpenOffice.org. Dump IE in favor of Firefox. Time = Money, and time spent cleaning up 0wned Windows boxes is expensive.

    You might also consider dumping IIS for Apache if possible.

    And yes, you should shut down all your PC's, as it will save money. It adds up.

    1. Re:Dump Microsoft by Gorath99 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Making Firefox the default browser is always worth it, but I wouldn't be so eager to throw away MS Office. If all it's used for is typing letters then it could well be a good idea (but then why aren't you using Works instead of Office in the first place?), but if people are using Excel, Access and PowerPoint then you're getting yourself in more trouble than you might think.

      I work (part-time) at a human resources department and Excel is used all over the place. If it were replaced with Calc, then we'd have a serious problem. Lots of things that are easy in Excel are pretty hard to do in Calc, at least until you've had time to really familiarize yourself with it. Even worse is that it's a lot of work to convert Excel macros to Calc macros. Those things save a ton of work, but they're sadly not very portable. Maybe in time we'd be able to be just as productive with Calc, but the transition period would not be pretty. Like you said: time is money.

      Another problem is with Impress. It's a fine program, but presentations need to look perfect and sadly the conversion from and to PowerPoint files is not yet perfect. Not a problem if all you have to deal with is other people using Impress, but you don't always have that luxury.

      And finally, I wouldn't even know what to replace Access with. Granted, no hacker would touch the thing, but office workers generally aren't hackers. Access is about as complex a piece of software as you can put in front of office workers. Anything more complex and they just won't be able to use it at all.

    2. Re:Dump Microsoft by Theatetus · · Score: 2, Insightful
      And what should they do the first time OpenOffice doesn't open a document from an uber important customer properly?

      Same thing I do when I can't open something from an uber important client using MS Office (this happens too): point him to Adobe's "make a pdf" website.

      Then again, our uber-important clients don't know jack about technology and don't mind hearing stuff like that (the last Word document that wouldn't open, for instance, was messed up because the VP writing the report tried to embed some weird OLE object in another weird OLE object: we told him to stop doing crap like that, and he was fine with that)

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  7. IT is a support organization by TedTschopp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And as a support organization, you need to position yourselves as such. There is a certain sense that you are like the electricity or the water. Now granted if you are not in the Business of IT, perhaps the company will look at focusing on their core business and out sourcing IT. Kinda like how most businesses don't generate their own elecricity or purify their own water.

    With that said, why don't you look at becoming someone who provides your business complete solutions to their problems as opposed to just keeping Server X up or Program Y debugged. Each of those things can be done by someone else for cheaper. But knowing what your company does, and how to unify business processes and computerize them is not something they can get anybody to do.

    So focus on what your company does, and learn their business, and learn how computers will solve their problems. That way you might end up overseeing the group of developers over in India. Learn how to architect a solution, learn how to manage a project. These are the skills that IT needs these days.

    Ted Tschopp

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  8. Software Licenses by R33MSpec · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sorry to state the bleeding obvious but if you can find an open-source software alternative that is as good as or better than the software packages your currently using then why not propose to migrate across?

  9. Simple, really... by rongage · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you want to save the company money, then quit!

    Dude, the writing is on the walls as plain as day: ...profitable company...wants to cut costs...

    Some bean counter is trying to squeeze as much efficiency out of you folks as possible. If I had to guess, the company is going up for sale soon and they need to make the place look as good as possible for the sale.

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  10. Re:Outsourced Ourselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    China.

  11. Where are your costs? by Daniel+Boisvert · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're spending lots on new hardware, see if you can wring more life out of the old stuff.
    If you're spending lots on software upgrades, see if you can hold off on a cycle.
    If you're spending lots on bandwidth, shop for a new provider that may get you a better rate.
    If you're spending a bunch on outside consultants, put together some numbers showing how much cheaper it would be to do that work yourself.

    Maybe you've got excess server horsepower and could get more use out of what you have by switching to thin clients (and get off the PC upgrade treadmill). Maybe your management will be more receptive to Free solutions now that money's tight. Maybe I'm rambling on without enough information to go on.

    Without knowing where the bulk of your costs are, it's damned-near impossible to give you any decent advice on cost-cutting.

  12. Re:Turning off the computer is costly by cdipierr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except that your assumption is faulty.

    A computer, at night even /w the monitor "on" will probably draw about 100W of power tops. This assumes the monitor is energy star compliant and goes into a typical sleep state and that your PC isn't running some CPU intensive task, so at the very least cut your numbers to 20% and you get $400/month for the 100 machine scenario. This isn't nothing, but you're better off convincing people not to take clients to expensive dinners.

  13. Re:start saying "No" by houghi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unfortunatly if the IT deaprtment starts daying NO, it will also start saying NO to things that are really needed.

    What you need to do is to get a GOOD insight into what different departments need and spen your time on that. If then the sales department comes along and asks for something extra, just tell them they can choose what of THEIR other projects should be put on hold.

    Also charge the departmenst as if you are your own company. Want a new PC mr. big shot? No problem. Give us the money and you get what you want.

    That way the other departments will only ask what they really need as it comes out of their budget.

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  14. I got a better idea by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    downsize the IT managers who cannot say "No", as they are the ones that force IT departments to overwork themselves.

    "Here are the projects I want you to work on."

    "But these projects are commercially available for less money than our development costs to make them."

    "I don't care, I made promises to other departments that we will do them."

    "But it will take a staff of 200 to do these projects in 3 months. We only have 30. We will need more time."

    "We don't have the budget for that, so everyone will be forced to work 80 hours a week with no overtime pay."

    "In some cases we already have some of these software projects. Like Microsoft Outlook for scheduling and contact management, and Microsoft Project for Project Management."

    "I want custom versions of those programs, because I promised them to the other departments."

    "Well at least can we have a raise to compensate for all the overtime we will put into these projects?"

    "No, in fact, I have to cut everyone's salary in order to help budget more money for marketing and executive pay raises."

    Then the IT department has a 90% turnover rate for four years of this, and each IT employee that is fired or leaves ends up costing 150% of the annual salary for that position to replace, which adds more to the IT budget.

    Then after being over-stressed, over-worked, and suriving 4 and a half years of this, I get really sick and end up being fired and replaced with someone willing to work for half of my salary.

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  15. Look seriously at Open Source by sc0nway · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We were in a similar bind three years ago (and two years ago, and last year too now that I think about it....). One of the things we did was replace Bea Weblogic instances on our 40+ production machines with JBoss. It saved the company about $2M in licences. When one the programmers in my group complained of the slowness (We needed to tweak our configuration) I just pointed out that saving the $2M was the same as 30 of us not getting axed. But the morale of the story is that if you are serious about saving money look how much you are paying for software licences yearly and see if there are viable open source alternatives to the big dollar items.

  16. It's a management mantra... by Vexler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's the management's responsibility - not the IT staff's responsibility - to make sure the company comes out in the black on the balance sheet every year. The average IT staffer doesn't see every penny coming in and going out - that job belongs to the CFO and the accounting department.

    Management needs to take a stock of how the cash is flowing and make strategic decisions on how best to save for long-term growth. Buying that shiny and new equipment may not make much sense, until you realize that you are throwing away five times as much money in manhours every year by not biting the bullet and upgrading.

    I used to work for a manufacturing facility, and there are a lot of old-timers who think that saving money involves turning off their PCs every night. But they were not looking at how much time they are wasting every day in dealing with old OSs and crash-prone programs. They also did not look at how much time I (the network engineer) had to go over and "fix" their machines by rebooting for them.

    Having your corporate culture mumbling to itself "gotta save money, gotta save money" is a good sign that the senior management, together with middle management, has not done its job in formulating and communicating a coherent game plan to the rest of the company.

  17. Re:Automation by TedTschopp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've saif this for years, IT should always be looking to put themselves out of a job. (Which interestingly enough is why I'm not concerned with the current fad of outsourcing.) There is always more things to bring under the control of IT automation.

    Ted Tschopp

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  18. Sometimes it's the opposite. by TheMCP · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sometimes buying software from outside is more expensive than just building it in-house, particularly if the outside software is overpriced (as it usually is), and if you can define a reasonable and limited set of features or the software to be developed in-house (this is where most development efforts fail).

    As an IT/IS manager, I have in the past been tasked with buying software packages for major company initiatives... and found that all of the decent packages that came anywhere near meeting requirements cost upwards of $75,000, and at that they wouldn't integrate into any existing systems. (This creates another set of logins to maintain.)

    For 2/3 that price, I could hire a competent programmer for a year. So, faced with this dilemma and an expensive package I needed to have, I hired a programmer. And the system was developed in two man months, leaving me able to use that programmer's time on other important projects. Oh, and the package integrated perfectly with existing systems, and was expandable.

    Okay, so having a full time programmer is $50,000 a year on the books every year, an ongoing expense, while buying the software is $75,000 and then it's over. (Except for the invisible ongoing administrative costs.) But, I saved $25,000 outright by hiring the programmer, and then if I consider that it actually only took two months of time to do it, I actually saved $66,667 by hiring someone. And then I could save more on the next project that I developed in-house.

  19. Re:Turning off the computer is costly by Peyna · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now, if you don't pay the employees while they wait for their machines to boot...

    Your claim is based on the assumption that employees will just sit there and do nothing for the 5 minutes they wait for their computer to start up.

    Odds are they'll waste the same amount of time per day doing nothing product whether or not they have to wait for their computer to start up. There are probably many other things they could do while waiting.

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  20. Let the experts do it by madmaxx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In our small office, we have cut costs by factoring out un-needed servers. When I started there a year ago, there were 30+ servers running in a cooled server room. They had a OC3, and were hosting their own mail, web, dns, etc.

    Now we have 4 servers running internally, and one running offsite. We pay a hosting company to manage our mail and web services, which costs us 1/4 of what we paid our own staff to do. We've dropped our fiber and use business DSL, which is another large savings. We also order all of our equipment from a very capable local shop, who take care of building and configuring hardware for us. As a bonus, or local retailer serves as our expert on hardware choices.

    A side-benifit of reducing the number of servers we use, we have a surplus of spare parts. These changes also allow IT staff to be redistributed in the company, doing more important things (like testing, customer support, development). While we still order new parts, we've been able to drop our hardware budget by more than half for the past year.

    Resources are better spent on things related to your products and services, so it's important to spend your people on those things as well ... and not on IT. IT, in many ways, is like plumbing or electrical: the business does well to have the services, but should not feel they need to do it all themselves. Stick to the domain of the business.

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  21. Frame the problem better by linuxwrangler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You need to find the answers to some questions:

    Are all divisions being pressured to cut or just IT?

    You say that IT is overworked but is the IT operation efficient?

    How central is IT to the companies business?

    How aware is senior management of the contributions of IT?

    How does your company compare to others in your industry? For example you may be profitable but if you make your investors $.01 per dollar invested and your industry average is $.10 then your company probably has a problem. Also, how does it compare in use of and expenditures for IT?

    Are there indications that the company is facing problems that will require belt-tightening?

    How is IT's performance perceived throughout the company?

    Is IT's capability being underutilized by the enterprise?

    How resistant is the organization to change?

    I could come up with more but you get the idea. With some digging you will soon be able to determine what is _really_ happening.

    If someone in power is targeting IT only and setting you up to fail they are probably just setting the stage to outsource. Polish up your resume.

    If you find that the company is doing fine then this could be a scare-tactic method to lower or eliminate bonuses and raises. Your call whether or not you want to stay.

    If IT has a reputation as a bunch of BOFHs then you have been digging your grave for a long time. If you survive in the short term, this needs to be fixed. Sure, some users can be a pain but users are the reason IT exists at all.

    If changes can make IT more efficient, suggest them. Just be careful not to confuse efficient with effective. Doing an unnecessary thing efficiently is not helpful. You may even find that its time to wean remaining users from costly legacy systems.

    Think like a businessman. Have you renegotiated with your suppliers? Phone time, bandwith, hosting, loop and similar charges have plumetted over the past few years. Are you paying yesterday's prices or staying with an overpriced vendor?

    All the time be sure to remember to judge savings against profit, not revenue. I just dropped our DS3 loop charges by $12,000/year. That's not even a quarter-percent of the revenue of a $5,000,000 business but if the profit of that business is $50,000 then that saving just increased profit by 24%! A lot of businesses are just barely in the black if they are profitable at all. And that loop-charge saving is just 1/10 of what I saved by switching vendors a couple years ago. Costs count.

    At the same time don't get boxed into "IT is just an expense". Years ago I read a story about senior managers at an auto company all discussing the painful reality of sagging sales and they started spending a lot of time trying to decide just which factories should be closed when one of the managers said, "I have an idea that will save us _lots_ of money. Let's close _all_ the factories." He got a laugh but most importantly he broke the tension and refocused the meeting.

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  22. Re:Automation by mveloso · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes!

    The only way to save money in IT is to fire people. To fire people, you have to automate their jobs.

    That's it!

    If you want to be really good, go to the next step and try & figure out how to help your company make money. Maybe you can do a quick & dirty data mine on the current databases, so your purchasing can order stuff in bulk instead of having lots of small purchases.

    Maybe it's looking at trends, and discovering efficiencies in the business.

  23. Re:Terminal Server by eakerin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most linux distos use X11 for displaying GUIs, which has built in support for network transparency.

    Calling it a Linux Terminal Server is really just a way to explain the idea to people that only have experience with Microsoft products.

    So really, every linux machine can be a "Linux Terminal Server" and every linux machine can be a "Linux Terminal Client". There are a multitude of ways of setting up servers and clients, LTSP is one, Nomachines NX is another, and there are many other methods to manage it (you can easily hack something together yourself if you want).

    One other thing that X's native support for networked environments gives you is something like Citrix's seamless windows. You can run an app on your server, and it will display on your client just like applications run locally. In windows terminal services you get a desktop window with your app in it, or a full desktop session.

  24. Establish an expectation of service by pcguru19 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been through this too many times in the past. The simplist way to deal with this is:

    1. Establish a budget that meets the paper-pusher's needs.
    2. Off of that budget, outline the services, uptime, and response time you can deliver with the money you have. Spend a little time backing up what you say.
    3.Publish that to the rest of your company and let them know this is the new performance standard you'll be delivering to the company. Make things that impact executives(like email, bandwidth speed, etc) the things you reduce services on the most and leave the core business needs alone. Sell it as a decision that you weren't willing to compromise the core services you provide to the business.
    4. A suggested change if you don't already to it is to charge other departments for an outsourcer when employees create a problem from spyware, malware, or installing random crap on their machine. It's a good incentive for that employees manager to do something about them being an ass and it takes some of the pressure off you. We work on this stuff ourselves and use the outsourcing money to help us out with some tougher stuff elsewhere in our department.
    5. Trust me on this one, once you put these rules in place other departments WILL spend their money on you.

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  25. Apples and oranges. by Mistlefoot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To be frank. Advice on how to save money for a small company is the topic at hand.

    You indicate 25,000 computer with 15 techs.

    Quite obviously saving $100 in hardware per PC would save you $1/4 million. Cutting back on 15 cell phones....peanuts. You are likely to be inclined to look for savings in regards to hardware - or per PC. A small computer with 30 computers and 3 staff will have far different needs. Saving $100 per computer would be the same as 2 weeks wages..... Peanuts.

    I don't know the answer but I do think that you're situation is far from similar.

  26. Cutting IT costs by erc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Get rid of Windows wherever possible. Servers can run Linux or FreeBSD, MySQL, sendmail, etc. instead of Windows Server, SQL Server, and Exchange - that one simple move can save you thousands of dollars *per server*. Even desktops can be selectively replaced - for simple office applications, Evolution or Thunderbird work just as good, if not better, than Outlook, and since installing Firefox, I haven't touched IE in months.

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