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Strategy Shift In The Air For Microsoft

mrdaveb writes "In the face of a declining market for MS Windows and MS Office, Microsoft's recent statements and acquisitions point to a future in which .NET is a key driver behind a strategy which will see Windows CE devices taking the limelight. This article explores the problems which Microsoft face in maintaining their stranglehold, and their likely route to keeping Windows on top."

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  1. Wear & Tear by fembots · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What Microsoft really needs is some way of ensuring that software wears out at a similar speed to hardware

    It gets me wondering why consumer is willing to pay $4999 for a Plasma TV that has a specific (say 20,000 hours) lifespan, but can't stand paying a $49 software that has an expiry date.

    Hardware used to last for 10-20 years (like old radios), but hardly live past 3 years nowadays, yet consumers are rushing out buying and replacing gadgets every day.

    I guess the main influence is Open Source and freeware, which sort of prevent major software makers to gang up on consumers.

    Wear & Tear on hardware is by nature, Wear & Tear on software is by design, and people can choose against that design, but not many people can break nature's monopoly.

    1. Re:Wear & Tear by Valdrax · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's a difference between the physical limits of hardware and designed-in product failure. People simply don't like it when a company deliberately breaks their product to soak more money out of them when they could've given people a better product that they wanted in the first place. $49 software with an expiry date is software that could've lasted you for life for $49. People resent being treated that way.

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    2. Re:Wear & Tear by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 5, Funny
      My local PC dealer says MS Windows wears out and has to be reinstalled every few months.

      He says this has been true since windows 1.0, and who an I to query a professional?

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    3. Re:Wear & Tear by WesG · · Score: 4, Insightful
      In the face of a declining market for MS Windows...

      Declining market for MS Windows??? Show me some facts that says the market is declining for MS Windows! Microsoft just posted record profits for the quarter. How is MS Windows declining???

    4. Re:Wear & Tear by ecalkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because so far the consumer entertainment industry has made products that were better *enough* (and *cheaper*) that 3-5 years later, people are motivated to replace rather than repair

      a lot of people can see an 3 year improvement on tvs stereos, pvrs, etc. a lot of people couldn't tell you what got better in office xp over office 2000.

    5. Re:Wear & Tear by PMJ2kx · · Score: 5, Funny

      a lot of people couldn't tell you what got better in office xp over office 2000.

      They got rid of that damn paperclip!

    6. Re:Wear & Tear by ultranova · · Score: 5, Funny

      God, those old monopoly phones were immortal.

      It self-contradicting to talk about immortal things in the past tense ;).

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    7. Re:Wear & Tear by RealAlaskan · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It gets me wondering why consumer is willing to pay $4999 for a Plasma TV that has a specific (say 20,000 hours) lifespan, ...

      If you watch TV 8 hours a day, five days a week, that translates to a 10 year lifespan. I realize that you probably picked that figure out of the air, but here's a site that says 30,000 hours.

      Hardware used to last for 10-20 years (like old radios), but hardly live past 3 years nowadays, ...

      A 10 to 15 year lifespan isn't too terrible for hardware, which naturally wears out. Plasma TVs seem to be about as long-lasting as cars.

      ... but can't stand paying a $49 software that has an expiry date.

      As another post mentioned, most folks are willing to accept the idea that hardware naturally wears out, even if well made. In contrast, the idea of paying for something that is made to die before it wears out, just to make you pay for it again, rubs most of us the wrong way.

  2. New product line by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny
    Strategy Shift In The Air For Microsoft

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    Note: Microsoft is not responsible if sniffing MicrosoftAir(tm) makes the user more likely to catch a virus. Not compatible with any other kind of air. Due to licensing agreement, once you have used product, you will be never be able to breath regular air again. Void where prohibited by law.

  3. Microsoft Strategy by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    See what everyone else is doing.

    Copy it, tying it to your own IP, proprietary architecture and co-opting it to erode better strategies and make it your own.

    Bundle it.

    ???

    Fail to Profit!!!

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  4. Re:Strategy? by chris09876 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I disagree. They're a big corporation, and although they've done bad (and even some stupid) things, their goal is still to make money for their shareholders. If that goal requires that they be 'clever' and try and change their business model/strategy, I'm guessing they're going to do something. It might take them some time (more time than others), but I'm sure that Microsoft is not going to disappear. They're going to adapt to whatever market conditions present.

  5. It doesn't matter by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think we can all safely say that no matter how successful, or not, microsoft will be in the years ahead, the millions of users trained from birth to believe that windows id the worlds only operating system are unlikely to move en masse to the alternatives.

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  6. Natural and unnatural monopolies by MBraynard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    MS's is natural. They are having to innovate to keep their market lead. Just like US Oil having to do everything they could to cut the price of oil. You may not like the method (making things more propriatory to raise transition costs) - and these methods may backfire (seems like they may be already), but they are one way or another trying to make their product more attractive than the next guys.

    Now enter the US postal service. You try setting up a small time mail service in your city and go to jail. You try using FedEx for what the Postal Inspectors deem regular mail, and you go to jail. Similarly, if you try to stop paying into the government retirement system and start your own with higher returns.... guess what happens? Or what if you try to open your own liquir store in Virginia or Pennsylvania across from a state run ABC. Jail.

    We throw this monopoly term around way to much without acknowledging the difference between a natural, earned monopoly and a violent, coercive one.

    1. Re:Natural and unnatural monopolies by kfg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And yet, Microsoft was not found guilty of being a monopoly, but of employing that natural monopoly power in a criminally coercive manner in an attempt to leverage into an unnatural one.

      In effect they behave as does orginized crime.

      What was it that Argentinian minister said? Oh yes, that they do business like a drug dealer.

      KFG

  7. Nohing new... by PincheGab · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Is it just me or does this article state nothing new?

    - Microsoft has had the Office no-upgrade problem for a long time...

    - .NET was specifically developed to (appear to) run multi-platform (or was this an accident on the part of microsoft?)

    - The first full release of .NET was in 2002... The beta period was long before that...

    - Of course MS wants development for WinCE/PocketPC to be as easy as developing for the deskptop... Perhaps that's why you can write a PocketPC/WinCE program right on MS Developer Studio?

    - Yes, Microsoft would want everyone to rent out Office instead of buy a perpetual license. Every app developer wants that. Remember ASPs (Application Service Providers)?

    This article sounds like its written by someone who just got into computers and is just finding out what's gone on for the last 5 years...

  8. Do something well. by paithuk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Personally I would just like to see Microsoft do something really well for the first time. They seem to take the approach I use at University: Do it as quickly as possible and put effort in where it can be seen. This is not what I would expect when it comes to a commercial product, and only works for proof on concepts. Now 21 years later, it's pretty clear Windows isn't a POC, so buck up and give us something we can really love. (For more information, visit www.apple.com)

  9. Strategic retreat... by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been wondering about this for awhile. Microsoft's overall strategy has always been to be the mediator between your computer/data and you. At the beginning this was DOS, then it became Windows on top of DOS. Then Office to get to your business data, etc; Netscape was a major threat because they could usurp that position and allow you to get to your data through the web browser on a PC without needing a MS product. .NET is the ultimate implementation of this strategy. If they can really make it run anywhere: PCs running Windows, OSX or Linux on various hardware flavors AND on palms, consumer electronics devices, etc; Then they'll have succeeded in making a standardized "glue" layer between you and the hardware.

    Next port Office to .NET and you have practically the same scenario as you have today except now Windows(.NET) runs anywhere.

    Linux? OSX? Windows? Bah, who cares, so long as you're running a .NET license...

  10. Re:Strategy? by temojen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    s/shareholders/board members & institutional investors/ . They're publicly traded; individual shareholders have little to no power or share of the profits.

  11. Re:Strategy? by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Microsoft will never change their strategy.... It's always going to be keep the markets cornered, and allow as little interoperability as possible.

    Most of Microsoft's success can be chalked up to two failures by one other company...

    IBM allows Bill Gates to own and sell MS-DOS under his own company's name, as IBM doesn't take the PC seriously.

    IBM fails to protect their PC design, not taking PC's seriously, and clones flourish providing a ready market for MS-DOS

    Most of everything else Microsoft has profited wildly from is centered around these two items. Microsoft has demonstrated that they are not a very inventive company by buying up lots of technology companies and immitating others. Where they have attempted to innovate in new markets they have usually fallen flat on their face and lost hundreds of millions of $. If it weren't for the O/S, Office and Server divisions Microsoft wouldn't be able to sputter so frequently.

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  12. Windows CE Strategy? Right . . . by sunspot42 · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Win CE devices are going to continue dropping in price as they become more common. There's no way Microsoft is going to be able to earn anywhere near the margins they make in the PC business on a $100 cell phone, and there's no reason why hardware makers in the competitive electronics marketplace won't switch to open source (i.e. free) alternatives in the not too distant future in order to make their products more competitive. It's not like there's a huge inventory of Win CE software out there that absolutely must be run on these portable devices.

    If MS is betting the future on CE devices, dump your MS stock right now while it's still worth something. MS remains a one trick pony, and their one trick is their OS monopoly in the PC marketplace. In spite of their billions, they've never been able to dominate any other industry and they never will because they're incapable of innovation. Their entire culture involves around theft, acquisition and intimidation. Expecting Microsoft to compete in a more open marketplace and win would be like expecting the Mafia to get into the automobile manufacturing business and compete with Toyota. They aren't structured for that kind of business, have no aptitude for it, and their strong-arm techniques only alienate customers and potential partners.

  13. FUD by X43B · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Microsoft's profit is currently focussed on two major products - MS Windows and MS Office. Both of these are in decline."

    Only on /. can one of the most profitable companies in the world with record profit and revenue for this past quarter be considered in decline. I'm not saying I approve of how they do it, but it is funny how FUD can go both ways.

    1. Re:FUD by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Only on /. can one of the most profitable companies in the world with record profit and revenue for this past quarter be considered in decline. I'm not saying I approve of how they do it, but it is funny how FUD can go both ways.

      Being the most profitable company in the world and being in decline are two separate statements that in no way contradict each other. Neither do record profits contradict decline, due to the rather ambigious nature of the word "decline".

      Consider a corporation that is steadily losing markets to other corporations (and yes, this is happening to Microsoft - Linux market share is growing, and since all market shares must add up to exactly 100%, someone else must be declining). If the total market is growing, that corporation could easily be making record profits (by growing its absolute sales) while still losing market share (declining).

      What makes it worse in Microsoft's case is that their business model is based on being the best known alternative. Windows and Office are so widely used that they are de facto standards. If Microsoft loses market share, this position is threatened, which will lead to further losses - applications will get ported to other operating systems and other file formats will be used for document exchange (and secretaries will learn to use other office programs), making Microsoft's programs seem worse and worse in comparison. So any decline in market share is very bad news for Microsoft. This might also tempt Microsoft to try and make it look like it was having record revenue, to imply that it had record sales and is therefore not going anywhere and therefore still the wise choice.

      Disclaimer: I haven't read the article, nor have I examined either market shares of various products or Microsoft Corporation in any detail. I'm just speculating how these seemingly contradictory claims could be true simultaneously.

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  14. Re:Strategy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Microsoft is capable of adapting to changing market conditions, they may adapt.

    But they may not be capable. The book "The Innovator's Dilemma" explores cases where corporations were not capable of adapting to changes in the market space caused by "low-end" competitors moving upward into the formerly plush (well-controlled) market.

    Open source has the potential for doing this to Microsoft, IMHO.

  15. Don't think that's what consumers are doing by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When a consumer is buying a plasma at Best Buy (for example), I don't think in fact they are buying a TV with a life of 20,000 hours. I think they have no idea that is the case, and as far as they are concerned that TV should last for years and years.

    I do not think that yet people are fully bought into the notion of device failure in a year rather than ten. After all, people are used to the TV's they had before which did last perhaps ten years or so (that was the case for my last TV, even really a bit longer than ten years).

    People still get refrigerators that last for a while, and other appliances they probably plan to keep as long as the house.

    I think also there's a function of money where people expect for hosuehold electronics/appliances to last longer as the cost increases. Certainly a lot of people expect this of cars, preferring to keep a car ten years or longer and assuming it will hold up.

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  16. Bill's pet project by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You can bet that MS corporate strategy will follow Bill's pet projects. Bill is seriously into the handheld device, so you can be sure that MS effort will be put into that.

    MS has screwed up so many times in the handheld arena, but now the technology is getting to the point where maybe they can get their bloatware to work: i. mobile devices are getting powerful enough and cheap enough; ii. 3G and effective wireless netweorking are getting to the stage where they are reasonable as mobile data carriers.

    MS has been losing money in mobile for many years. This might give them an edge in the future.

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  17. Perhaps they'll make things a little easier then by strider3700 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm in the middle of learning to create a program on a windows CE device. Since it's going to be used to aquire data I figured it would be nice to install some form of DB on it. Sure enough there is SQL 200 CE for the ce .net devices. So Here I am thinking this is great I'll install that and away we go. 1 day later I'm still working on that install.

    First I already have visual studio .Net installed and I really can't complain about it. Best IDE I've ever used hands down.

    Second I know that I need SQL server to replicate the DB's with so I head off to MSDN and grab it.
    500 or so meg later and I burn it to a CD(my media versions of the subscription haven't arrived yet) and start the install. Installation doesn't appear to do anything. After messing with it for a bit I remove it. Remove the desktop edition, and remove the old sql client tools. run the install again and it works. Fine I can live with that.
    So I install sql 2000 CE It tells me that I need sql 2000 SP1 installed. I assumed that the newest version on MSDN would have the service pack installed already but I would be wrong.

    So 430 meg later I have downloaded SP2 (sp1 is rolled into it) and another 120 or so meg and I have SP3. Install those. Reinstall sql CE. I get further but I now need to install IIS so that the two can comunicate. It didn't come preinstalled on this XP pro SP2 PC so I get to track the program down, set it up then get the database installed then I can get back to the 20 minute tutorial I was following. .Net on CE devices may work nicely but the hours of hoops to jump through just to get started is a real pain in the ass. By far the best part of this exercise has been visual studio. I added the necessary parts as a reference and away it goes.

    Deploying programs to the device is trivial. If all the rest of the software was at the same level as visual studio I wouldn't be using linux as my desktop at home.

  18. Why MS bought VirtualPC _and_ What .NET is about!! by javaxman · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I've heard this explaination as to why Microsoft bought Connectix ( and thus Virtual PC ) before, but never quite so successfully explained.

    Basically, they bought VirtualPC so their future customers, running on some non-x86 processor, can run legacy x86 Windows programs along side their .NET-based programs. The detail being that of course, the .NET-based apps are running in a ( licensed ) Microsoft operating system environment. As an added bonus, the OS used in VPC is yet another licensed MS operating system! Even _more_ software sales for M$!!

    It's just the M$ way of _not_ betting the farm on x86... which is the true point of .NET, at least according to this guy.

    Hey, they're not stupid at M$, they just like *MONEY*!!!

  19. ...or the next front by BeerCat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    .NET has been around for a while, but it finally might be beginning to pick up. The w3schools stats for February* have included .NET as an OS platform, with a small, but rising share. Perhaps MS are looking for the same (initially slow) take up of IE6 or XP.



    Of course, the real news is that Firefox has hit 20%, with other non-IE taking the total to over 25%. Yeah, I know, "lies, damn lies and statistics, and all that", but it should mean the end of IE only sites, when it can be shown that they are turning away 1 out every 4 site visitors.

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  20. I think the author missed something important by ShatteredDream · · Score: 4, Interesting

    About Longhorn. It was supposed to be the Great Leap Forward for Microsoft and yet most of the cool features have either been pulled for future releases or being backported to XP. This will probably be the first version of Windows where there is very little incentive to upgrade from the previous version for most of Microsoft's users.

    The absolute worst thing that could happen to Microsoft would be for Windows to lag in sales. So much of their company rides on the success of Windows and Office that if one of those gets badly damaged it would have very damaging results for the entire company.

  21. Google! by LesPaul75 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I (still) say that Microsoft is being forced into changing their application delivery model by Google. What choice do they have? What happens when Google rolls out a word processor, spreadsheet, and a dozen other "Office-like" apps all of which run right in your web browser, and they offer it all at a really, really competitive price per user (especially to businesses), and Microsoft is still selling clunky old CDs?

    Look at it this way... Which would you rather have: this or this? One of them comes on a CD, and becomes outdated very quickly unless you continously patch and upgrade it. The other is just a URL that you type into a browser, and you can let them (Google) worry about keeping it up to date.

  22. .Net == .Not by JPyObjC+Dude · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I had two identically priced and featured products and one was running on .Net and the other JME, I would not even think twice about selecting latter.

    There are many in the world who have had enough of the instabilities and insecurity of microsoft software who will do just the same. Just look at the ratio of enterprise applications running on java vs .net. It seems that .net is for the little guy's who are too cheap to spend the money on an enterprise product.

    Time to buy those Options on Microsoft Stocks.

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    1. Re:.Net == .Not by blueberrry · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ignorance must not be modded as interesting.

      Have you ever tried .NET? This is not VB. .NET is very stable, in fact if all Microsoft applications were written in .NET they would be a lot more stable and secure. I'm really starting to get pissed off about people who haven't even used .NET and talk crap about it.

      Remove your tin foil hat and get the facts. I'm not pro-Microsoft, i'm happy not to use their products when I can. However, .NET is pretty rock-solid. I've used it for dozens of projects and I've had a better overall experience than Java (faster, more coherent, less bloat).

      Please give some examples to support your claims.

  23. "Profits" vs "Market Share" by KiltedKnight · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Actually, while Microsoft may have posted record profits, they've also noted that their sales of Windows have actually declined. Their entire profit increase was more due to cost cuts and sales of Halo 2.

    Read about it here

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  24. Back to school for you (YOU FAIL IT)! by temojen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A natural monopoly is an industry where the most efficient production is through a monopoly. This means Municipal water supply, electricity distribution, local telephone service, public postal services, etc.

    Microsoft's monopoly came about mostly by their exclusive contracts with hardware vendors, agressive bundling, and buying up competitors. This is the antithesis of a natural monopoly.

    1. Re:Back to school for you (YOU FAIL IT)! by graffix_jones · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, you only got a 'C' on your explanation. :)

      A natural monopoly occurs when a company (not an industry... that suggests 'several' companies) can only become efficient once it reaches a certain size, meaning that they only become profitable once a certain economy of scale is reached. These are companies with high fixed costs, and anybody that's had some business training know that if you spread out the fixed costs over more units of production there is less fixed cost attached to each unit. In a natural monopoly, there are extremely high barriers to entry (i.e. power distribution grid, phone service grid, cable TV infrastructure, etc.), and extremely large economies of scale, so that it really only makes sense to have one player, but the government keeps tabs on them through regulation.

      The main problem with natural monopoly regulation is the fact that the return they are allowed is based on the value of their assets, so it really invites inefficiency... companies spend all their time acquiring new assets rather than finding inefficiencies in their production to raise their profits, as a 'normal' business would have to do.

      The government is sometimes quick to change it's tune in the face of new technology, however. AT&T went from being a regulated natural monopoly to seeing the inside of an anti-trust court in a very short time, mainly because technology caught up and there were new ways to transmit telephony data. AT&T tried to restrict access to the new technology since it owned all the current infrastructure, and got itself split up into the Baby Bells.

      It's my opinion that Microsoft should be treated as a natural monopoly and be regulated, but that's food for another debate. :D

  25. pure drivel by Jodka · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article states, as a central premise:

    "What Microsoft really needs is some way of ensuring that software wears out at a similar speed to hardware. Unfortunately for them, although fortunately for the consumer, it is quite hard to build planned obsolescence into software."

    WTF? That is utter nonsense. The Windows security model dates from before ubiquitous internet. It was not designed for a modern threat level and has NOT been adequately updated to deal with it. It does not get any more worn out than that.

    The article makes it out that Microsoft's problem is that there is no market for innovation in operating systems. Bullshit. There is a huge market for innovation. Just look at all the features Apple is adding to MacOS (quartz extreme, spotlight..) and look at how the Linux Kernel continues to improve (real time support, reentrent kernel, massive multi-CPU scaling and clustering, constant time scheduler, ever more platforms). Microsoft's real problem is that their Windows development operation has become so bloated and inept that they can not supply timely improvements. They have not kept up with the competition or with the hackers, and are only falling further behind. And most of the "innovative" features announced in Longhorn seem to be inspired by OS X.

    This does not seem to be a problem with Microsoft generally. They do execute well in other areas. IMHO Halo and the Xbox are good products, whatever their profitability. The .Net architecture seems like a sensible (more generality) and well-executed improvement over Java ideas.

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