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Sci-Fi Channel Renews Battlestar Galactica

Chairboy writes "The Sci-Fi Channel has just announced the renewal of Battlestar Galactica for a second season. The creator of the show has announced that the second season will delve into the religious issues surrounding the Cylons in addition to opening up their society more. The latest episode had 3.2 million viewers, almost twice as many as watched the latest episode of Star Trek Enterprise." I said it before, and I'll say it again- this is the best Sci Fi program currently airing, so I'm happy to see more.

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  1. Not only the better show... by DrWho520 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but also the atmosphere I envisioned Enterprise as being; the primitive tech, the flights of patrol ships, the hard nosed military demenor. Enterprise just is not gritty enough for the time period it is trying to portray. The writers really should have taken a Q from the Earth environment of First Contact.

    Now just do not pull the same crap you did with Farscape. One little mini-series to pull everything together that was not worthy of the established story line.

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  2. Annoying. by evvk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hope the fire the cameraman at least. Judging from all the swaying, he's apparently drunk all the time at work.

    I also don't like the cheap soap opera-esque quick switching between face shots. A few seconds of one face at full screen and then switch to another and then back. Very annoying.

  3. Re:Good news by Babbster · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Are racial issues really necessary? Are sexual issues really necessary? Are political issues really necessary?

    Good science fiction has less to do with cool spaceships blowing stuff up, funny/scary robots, etc. and more to do with people (or at least sentient beings with familiar aspects) - they're people in an unusual setting but the stories still need to be about people in order to be compelling/entertaining. Religion, politics, sex...these are "people issues" and just as much at home in science fiction as they are in any "non-science" fiction.

  4. Re:Good news by Gumshoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've just posted this in another article thread but it's worth repeating I think. Science isn't limited to the physical sciences, it also includes the social sciences. The question of religion and the need to believe in something supernatural is arguably a topic for sociologists and psychologists. Now, whether or not you consider psychology and sociology to be real science or not is a completly different argument but none-the-less, I don't see why science-fiction should limit itself to discussions involving physics, chemistry and biology.

    Tackling social topics in science-fiction isn't without precedent. Asimov's Foundation novels are good examples of science fiction stories where the central premise is rooted in sociology.

  5. Re:Good news by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why? The humanoid cylons are almost indistinguishable from us, it's not unreasonable they'd have some kind of religion.

    Religion is inevitable if you are self aware and mortal I reckon - it's a myth that makes dying a more palatable prospect.

    Some spoilers below

    Actually the thing I liked about the series was the idea that it is clearly inspired by the War On Terror. There are scenes where cylons do suicide bombings, claim that the humans 'worship idols' and explain that they don't fear death because their soul will get downloaded to a new body. It's not quite 72 virgins but it's close.

    And fighting such an implacable enemy has a corrosive effect on human society too - look at the torture scene, or the way the military gradually seems to be gradually taking over. They even need to shoot down a 'hijacked' ship, which may or may not contain civilians just after the cylons devastating 9/11 style suprise attack.

    And the nice thing about the series is that it seems to be generally interested in exploring this stuff with relatively rounded characters rather than settling for two dimensional 'good' and 'bad' characters like most sci fi.

    So the religious stuff is pretty key to the appeal of the show.

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  6. Ronald D. Moore is reason for BG's success. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the major reason why the new Battlestar Galactica series has done well is one Ronald D. Moore, who I believe developed the new series and is one of the Executive Producers.

    Moore wrote and/or was involved in many of the best episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine; small wonder why the new BG series has been much better than many people anticipated. =)

    It's too bad Ron Moore wasn't involved with Enterprise, because Moore could have turned Enterprise into a potentially great series. :-(

    1. Re:Ronald D. Moore is reason for BG's success. by BaseLineNL · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's too bad Ron Moore wasn't involved with Enterprise, because Moore could have turned Enterprise into a potentially great series. :-(

      On what might have been, Moore posted his interesting view on Enterprise (and Star Trek in general) at his blog:

      Trek goes back to the Fans

      Now that Enterprise has been cancelled, we're about to enter a period not seen since the orignal series ended its run just a few weeks before Apollo 11 landed on the moon: a time without a Star Trek film or TV project on the horizon. From the reaction I've seen thus far, the consensus view seems to be that this is merely a pause in the trek, and that before too long, we'll be talking about the newest take on Roddenberry's universe, be it television, feature, animation or sock puppet. I tend to agree, insofar as I know first hand that Viacom considers "the Franchise" to be one of their crown jewels and I've personally heard them refer to the "next fifty years of Star Trek" as a corporate priority.

      So Star Trek isn't dead and it isn't dying. It has, however, entered into an interregnum, a pause in the treadmill of overlapping productions that have become the norm for the series that was once considered "too cerebral for television."

      Certainly there is sadness in this news. There has been a Star Trek production either in prep or being filmed on Stages 8 & 9 on the Paramount lot since 1977, when Star Trek: Phase Two began initial construction for a second series featuring all the original characters but Spock (these sets were then revamped for Star Trek: The Motion Picture). An entire infrastructure has been built around the productions, staffed by people whose involvement in the Franchise goes back over two decades. The dedication, passion, and talent of these artisans and craftsmen cannot be overstated. The unsung heroes of Trek, the people who sweat every detail, who take the time to think through continuity and try to make the vast universe consistent, people like Mike and Denise Okuda, Dave Rossi, Michael Westmore, Herman Zimmerman, Bob Blackman, and many others, are about to leave and take with them an enormous body of knowledge and talent that cannot be and will not be replicated again. That is cause for both tears and eulogies as the close of Enterprise signals the true end of an era.

      However, there is another side of this story, one that perhaps is somewhat more hopeful and positive: Star Trek has now been returned to the care of its community of fans.

      I say returned because there was a time when the fans were the exclusive owners and operators of what would later become the Franchise. From 1969 until 1979, a genuine grassroots movement of fans gathered together in conventions, published newsletters (in the primordial ooze of the pre-internet era, no less), wrote scads of fan fiction, created their own props and uniforms, and dreamed the dream of what it was to live aboard the good ship Enterprise.

      I was one of those fans; I was a kid growing up in the 1970's who found Star Trek in strip syndication and bought every book and magazine I could lay my hands on and every piece of fan merchandise I could con my parents into buying and I can tell you that some of those efforts were abysmal and some were brilliant, but all of them were driven by a sense of passion rooted in a belief that Trek was our secret club. We, the fans, embroidered the Trek tapestry while the powers that be at Paramount dawdled. In those years, the best stories told not those written by Gene or any other "professional writers" (no offense to the short-lived, but well intentioned animated series), but by people like Sondra Marshak, Myrna Culbreath, and Jacqueline Lichtenberg. Who are they? Fans. People who loved Star Trek and were able to breath life into it during the interregnum between the show and the Franchise.

      Star Trek now returns to the care of its fans and its fans can decide for themselves what kind of experie

  7. Re:FTL Shark-jumping... by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think last week's episode which has Starbuck patching a Cylon ship with her jacket,

    No reason this couldn't work, if her jacket was made out of the right material.

    breathing oxygen out of a tube (lucky she didn't hit a toxic hydraulic line),

    Luck has nothing to do with it. She had some magical oxygen tester, the little pen-like thing that she took out a couple of times, that told her what it was.

    and flying the ship based on her "pitch, roll, yaw, power" mantra was plain silly.

    If you're in a lot of pain and in a difficult situation, mantras like that are a good way to keep focused and thinking.

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  8. Re:I think BSG is going to be around for a long ti by MtViewGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The immediate future of television SciFi is niche channels. The staple of good SciFi is great special effects. Every year, it gets cheaper and cheaper to make effects that are better and better. The original BSG took the budget of a major network to put out. Now, a smallish cable channel can do a better job cheaper.

    Back when the original BG series was in production in 1977-1978, it was exorbitantly expensive because you had to build models and use special motion cameras to film the models--a very time-consuming process. Given how good today's CGI technology has become with relatively cheap equipment, you can now do special effects vastly better than what was done with the original series at a tiny fraction of the cost.

    I can cite another example: how to depict a mythological flying dragon on-screen. When Industrial Light & Magic did its work for Dragonslayer they built a "go-motion" model of a dragon and filmed it with special cameras, which required a long and time-consuming process to complete; 15 years later, Dragonheart did the same thing, but all completely done with CGI, probably at less expense per minute of film than the earlier movie.

  9. Re:Good news by Hungry+Admin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "More human than Human."

    Indeed, the Cylons feel that they are "Human 2.0" and therefore have as much problem genociding humanity as we would have, say, stepping on a cockroach.

    I think the Cylons in this new Galactica series are showing the strain of their human roots. Keep watching...

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  10. Re:Good news by IPFreely · · Score: 4, Insightful
    One would think that humans getting such a handle on the science of life and physics would have obliterated religion, but it keeps on truckin' all the same.

    I don't find it surprising at all. First, I also support and accept science and all it includes.

    But if you truely understand science, then you must also understand it's limits. Science does not trump religion.

    The domain of science is:
    1. What can be observed.
    2. What can be experimented with.
    3. What can be calculated.

    Religion for the most part, and God in particular, does not fall into any of those categories. Thus science is not in a position to speak to religion, either positively or negatively.

    The clashes mostly are really around when religion tries to impose ideas into areas that science covers. When some particular religious belief conflicts with a scientific concept, then you have conflict. But Scientist should only attempt to address the particular belief. It would be a mistake for scientist to attempt to go all they way into religious territory and address concepts such as God where there is no observation, experimentation or calculation possible. Science has no traction there.

    You have to know where your ground lies, and defend that ground. But don't go where you don't belong. The central tennat of the scientific method is proof. Where there is something to prove, do it. There is little in the core of most religion that can be scientifically proved or disproved, so just ignore it. When you jump into the relm of religion where science doesn't cover, then you are just using your own brand of religion.

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  11. Re:Good news by 0111+1110 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For the most part I believe you are correct. This is why religious beliefs cannot be true per se. Anything that is not just unproven but unprovable cannot be regarded as a fact. Such beliefs can also justifiably be regarded as irrational. Just like the belief in elves or talking trees or invisible aliens living in your backyard.

    I think the confusion stems from the fact that religion is just a very primitive form of science. It is a pre-scientific way of trying to understand the world around you. If you can't understand something just invent a supernatural entitity who created whatever it is and controls whatever process you don't understand. It is really just a substitute for actual understanding.

    The primitive hope is that if some creature is responsible for the life and death and fertility and crops and every other aspect of human animal life, that it can be controlled without understanding it just be asking the appropriate entity for mercy or help or kindness or whatever. There was a ST:TNG episode based on this very idea.

    The difference between polytheism and monotheism is just that the polytheists believe (sensibly enough)in the division of labor whereas the monotheists believe that one entity controls everything. I guess the advantage of that is that you only have one person to ask favors of and the mythologies may be simpler.

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